Non Glock Polymer framed pistol's

[NineseveN]

Originally Posted by Big D

That looks like a nice piece as well.

Nineseven, Great writeup.

Thanks.


The problem is, there really are a ton of great guns on the market today, it's hard to get into these types of threads because you can get 20 different answers and all of them are mostly true.

[Big D]

Originally Posted by NineseveN

The problem is, there really are a ton of great guns on the market today, it's hard to get into these types of threads because you can get 20 different answers and all of them are mostly true.

Thats what I love about this site. Everyone will post their own opinion and of course some are good & some are simply great... I may not agree with everyone but I value the input.

[Big D]

Originally Posted by Holleta

Don't have any info to add on your original choices but I feel this would be a worthy contender ---> http://eaacorp.com/handguns-witness-...scription.html

PM me if you want to try one.

I have never seen that one before. What did it run???

Originally Posted by eXceLon

The Glock and the XD both have a very similar feel to them in my opinion, which is maybe why you've lost interest in both. The squarish design, the angles, the controls, etcetera.

I started out in a similar position as you. I'd shot a number of guns, including a Glock and an XD, but neither of them felt right to me. I kept finding myself gravitating back towards the Beretta 92, for whatever reason, but I wanted something a little different. Something a little smaller and lighter, something a little more modern, something with a polymer frame.

I eventually discovered the Beretta Px4, and decided that it would become the first gun that I would own. I had never had the opportunity to so much as touch one before buying, but I had a pretty good idea of what I wanted and the Px4 fit. I already knew I liked the shape of Berettas through my experience with the 92F, I knew I liked the placement and operation of the controls, and the Px4 was essentially exactly that with the differences that I wanted. So I bought it.

I wasn't disappointed by my decision at all.

I know it's not on your list, but I definitely suggest you consider it. It sounds like what you want might be similar to what I was looking for when I made my decision.

My first pistol was a Beretta 92fs. I did think of the Px4 at one time but I have forgotten about it. I am going to have to put that one on the list again.

[Tomcat088]

Originally Posted by Big D

It was a bunch of things on the XD. Mostly aftermarket stuff TruGlo TFO's that fell apart, (I ended up fixing them myself after it came back from their repair department.) wolff guide rod & spring that did not make me very happy, And I basicly lost interest in it.

I'm not trying to bust on you man, but it doesn't sound like there was a problem with your XD, it sounds like there was a problem with the aftermarket parts that you were buying. I like XD's and have had very good luck with them, so before you say that you had an XD (good riddance) please clarify that it was some of the accessories for the pistol that really gave you problems. As with any pistol, when you change up guide rods and especially recoil springs, things might need tweaking. You might have not have the proper length of spring, proper spring weight, etc. I'm trying to figure out why you changed it in the first place. Did you want to get a recoil spring that wasn't captive so you could tune it to a certain load?

Anyway, as lots of others have said, there are lots of great options when it comes to polymer pistols. Sig's, HK's, Glocks, Smith & Wesson MP's, there are so many pistols today that fit the hands and needs of people that are quite reliable. Go to a gunshop and rent some guns, see what you like, and buy one.

[Big D]

Originally Posted by Tomcat088

I'm not trying to bust on you man, but it doesn't sound like there was a problem with your XD, it sounds like there was a problem with the aftermarket parts that you were buying. I like XD's and have had very good luck with them, so before you say that you had an XD (good riddance) please clarify that it was some of the accessories for the pistol that really gave you problems. As with any pistol, when you change up guide rods and especially recoil springs, things might need tweaking. You might have not have the proper length of spring, proper spring weight, etc. I'm trying to figure out why you changed it in the first place. Did you want to get a recoil spring that wasn't captive so you could tune it to a certain load?

I bought aftermarket parts for it to try and make it something it was not. If someone wants to buy an XD by all means buy one. My having bad experience with the aftremarket parts (That other people may never have) just gave me a good reason to dump it. Perfectly stock however you must agree that the slide does become pretty soft after about 700 rounds when the gun is cocked.

As far as my reasoning for not wanting a glock...It is pure opinion. I have never shot one & my opinon of the construction has already been stated. If glock wants to send me one for free I will try it & submit my honest review.

[SharpShooter88]

Originally Posted by Big D

I bought aftermarket parts for it to try and make it something it was not. If someone wants to buy an XD by all means buy one. My having bad experience with the aftremarket parts (That other people may never have) just gave me a good reason to dump it. Perfectly stock however you must agree that the slide does become pretty soft after about 700 rounds when the gun is cocked.

As far as my reasoning for not wanting a glock...It is pure opinion. I have never shot one & my opinon of the construction has already been stated. If glock wants to send me one for free I will try it & submit my honest review.

Well if Glock is going to give out a free pistol...Send it to somebody who actually wants it...Like ME

[Holleta]

[quote=Big D;102583]I have never seen that one before. What did it run??? [quote]

It was right around $340 or so new. It's very similar to the CZ's but cost less, I've had a few in different configurations (metal frame too) and all have been good.

[Tomcat088]

Originally Posted by Big D

I bought aftermarket parts for it to try and make it something it was not. If someone wants to buy an XD by all means buy one. My having bad experience with the aftremarket parts (That other people may never have) just gave me a good reason to dump it. Perfectly stock however you must agree that the slide does become pretty soft after about 700 rounds when the gun is cocked.

As far as my reasoning for not wanting a glock...It is pure opinion.

What were you trying to make the XD into? As far as I can tell, it sounds like you had a problem with the TFO's, which has to do with trijicon and not springfield or their craftsmanship. Not to mention that TFO's are made for glocks and lots of other pistols, so it's not some incident that you might just have on an XD. I had over 4,000 rounds through my XD-45 Tactical and it's slide isn't soft by any means, alot of other people had trouble racking, especially women. Now there is a different though, depending on which model of the XD-40 that you had, because the captive recoil spring might not have held up as well, I don't know. Either way, my XD had no problems with the stock spring. I also have a prototype Don's Guide Rod (tungsten) which was custom before anybody else made a guiderod that would fit my pistol and allows me to use 1911 springs on it (the normal guiderod is too big to do this). It functions perfectly fine with wolf springs. Either way, it sounds like to me that you might have been trying to tweak things that you didn't have much experience with, or hadn't done proper research. I've seen lots of full out custom XD's that have no problems whatsoever, just like I've seen lots of other brands of pistols tricked out that don't have problems. Your problems, besides the lemon sights you got, sound more like operator error/tweaking to me.

If you don't like glock, that's cool man, I don't like the grip angle myself either. Either way, there's lots of other polymer pistols to try out. Let us know which one fits you best and which one you choose. I still think it's pretty silly make an opinion on a pistol without ever shooting it. As I stated before, I'd encourage you to go to a range that has all types of pistols for you to rent, and see what you like after shooting all of them, you might be surprised.

[Big D]

Originally Posted by Tomcat088

What were you trying to make the XD into? As far as I can tell, it sounds like you had a problem with the TFO's, which has to do with trijicon and not springfield or their craftsmanship. Not to mention that TFO's are made for glocks and lots of other pistols, so it's not some incident that you might just have on an XD. I had over 4,000 rounds through my XD-45 Tactical and it's slide isn't soft by any means, alot of other people had trouble racking, especially women. Now there is a different though, depending on which model of the XD-40 that you had, because the captive recoil spring might not have held up as well, I don't know. Either way, my XD had no problems with the stock spring. I also have a prototype Don's Guide Rod (tungsten) which was custom before anybody else made a guiderod that would fit my pistol and allows me to use 1911 springs on it (the normal guiderod is too big to do this). It functions perfectly fine with wolf springs. Either way, it sounds like to me that you might have been trying to tweak things that you didn't have much experience with, or hadn't done proper research. I've seen lots of full out custom XD's that have no problems whatsoever, just like I've seen lots of other brands of pistols tricked out that don't have problems. Your problems, besides the lemon sights you got, sound more like operator error/tweaking to me.

If you don't like glock, that's cool man, I don't like the grip angle myself either. Either way, there's lots of other polymer pistols to try out. Let us know which one fits you best and which one you choose. I still think it's pretty silly make an opinion on a pistol without ever shooting it. As I stated before, I'd encourage you to go to a range that has all types of pistols for you to rent, and see what you like after shooting all of them, you might be surprised.

Dude,

I did not like it anymore. It was certainly not my first pistol. I have plenty of experience with mechanical items and I am more the capable of performing most tasks. If you paid attention to what I said it also did it bone stock. It was too soft in my opinion. Yes I liked the gun. However it was the one I chose to get rid of before I bought another. You are looking WAY to far into it. Please don’t have a complex because I said "Good Riddents"

I'm not trying to start a fight here. I justed want to talk about the "Other Options" that are available. That is all.


In Other News.

I ordered a Sig Pro SP2022 .40 It should be in on friday... *Crossing Finger's*
Sig would not extend their $100 SigTac Gift card because of the state shutdown. I guess I should have gone down this road last week.

I am also trying to get approval from the "Boss" to buy 1 More unit this year. The list of prospects is at about 14 different pistols. Choices, choices, choices.....

[gf45acp]

Why chose? Get one of each! Think of the fun!