5.56/.223 pistol options

[itstock]

Originally Posted by XD45

i can't believe the size of some of those "pistols" they're huge, even compared to the carbon 15 type 97.. now if you could put a stock on it it'd wet my pants... but i'd assume thats illegal?!

Not so big when you put them next to a 16" ar with stock . I thought they were stupid too, until I got one.

And if you put a stock on it it would be an SBR, an NFA item. It's more fun without the stock.

Anyway, Olympic has a decent (I use decent loosely) AR pistol, as does Kel Tec.

[XD45]

I know it would make it an NFA, but it'd be so nice to spend $60, for a stock instead of paying about $500 more for that size gun probably, plus all the waiting and paperwork... damn gov't

[bigjlen]

id have to say that, yeah, most ar pistols are indeed huge!
in re to the keltec, yes, it does use ar mags and once you put that front handguard on,
i think it pretty sharp looking. plus many people have been pleased with it.
id look int one or maybe just build your own with like a model-1 kit or something.
just my opinion.

[billt]

Originally Posted by XD45

I know it would make it an NFA, but it'd be so nice to spend $60, for a stock instead of paying about $500 more for that size gun probably, plus all the waiting and paperwork... damn gov't

I agree. It's so damn stupid to be forced to jump through all their hoops! If there is one group that needs to go bye, bye it's the ATF! Bill T.

[Holleta]

I'm not knocking the AR pistols, I just don't get them. It seems lining up the sights would be difficult at best and recoil would be a bit much if using the sights (two handed hold, gun out in front pistol style)? Perhaps I just need to shoot one to understand.

Now an SBR or a folding stock model....Now your talking!! I think I would really like one of those.

I have had a Carbon 15 for a few years now (rifle), actually I bought it used. I have about 1.5k down the pipe, not sure how many the previous owner(s) had. It has been a great gun for me, superlight and works well. One of the guns I will likely never sell.

[billt]

Originally Posted by Holleta

I'm not knocking the AR pistols, I just don't get them. It seems lining up the sights would be difficult at best and recoil would be a bit much if using the sights (two handed hold, gun out in front pistol style)? Perhaps I just need to shoot one to understand.

I have had a Carbon 15 for a few years now (rifle), actually I bought it used. I have about 1.5k down the pipe, not sure how many the previous owner(s) had. It has been a great gun for me, superlight and works well. One of the guns I will likely never sell.

Recoil with a .223 handgun is next to nothing. A lot of blast and flash, but not much else. Try shooting a M-4 one handed, same deal. Not to be insulting but I think the .223 / 5.56 MM is a great womans caliber. My wife wouldn't own 3 if it weren't. Bill T.

[itstock]

Originally Posted by Holleta

I'm not knocking the AR pistols, I just don't get them. It seems lining up the sights would be difficult at best and recoil would be a bit much if using the sights (two handed hold, gun out in front pistol style)? Perhaps I just need to shoot one to understand.

Now an SBR or a folding stock model....Now your talking!! I think I would really like one of those.

I have had a Carbon 15 for a few years now (rifle), actually I bought it used. I have about 1.5k down the pipe, not sure how many the previous owner(s) had. It has been a great gun for me, superlight and works well. One of the guns I will likely never sell.

You need to shoot one to understand. My 110# girlfriend loves shooting it, as stated, .223 has no recoil/kick to begin with. Big flash, loud, and lots of fun. You hold it like a normal ar rifle, cheek weld against the buffer tube, and it's just a comfortable gun to shoot. Like I said before, I have always thought that AR pistols were one of the most stupid things out there. I then acquired one for a great price and wish I bought one sooner! It's the most fun gun that I own, they're cheap, reliable, and durable.

[billt]

AR -15's should be designated as Air-15's. My wifes comment, not mine. It really is a womans caliber don't 'ya know. Bill T.

[fultonCoShooter]

bushy kaboom 15







you guys can say the carbon 15s are safe, u can think what you want to,
Im just saying about every 3-6 months there is a kaboomed one posted on AR15.com

and its always in the same spot....

as for pistols being "huge" my pistol has a 7.5 barrel. with my one point sling i can conceal it under a winter jacket let me see that happen with a 16 inch ar

[fultonCoShooter]

Originally Posted by XD45

I know it would make it an NFA, but it'd be so nice to spend $60, for a stock instead of paying about $500 more for that size gun probably, plus all the waiting and paperwork... damn gov't

to take a pistol and make it a SBR is $200 for the stamp and about 3-5 month wait

not sure were your gettin $500 more from