Shooting low

[Ronin]

It could also be that you have the wrong sights on your Sig. If you look at the numbers on the front and rear sights, what are they? If you search Google you will find several instances where people have complained about Sigs shooting low. Usually it's because they got the wrong sight combination from the factory.

[tlgpa]

Originally Posted by HamburgBoy84

I can't get more than 50% on the paper with the Sig. Most of them are at least 12" low etc.

So 50% are on the plate and 50% are 12" low? Basically 12" grouping?
That's not the sights, that's inconsistant shooting. If 100% were grouping 12" low, perhaps the sights are the issue. But if at 20' you're not consistantly grouping within a paper plate, you need to get your grouping straightened out before looking at the gun.

[Hawk]

I ran into this on a P220 after I was use to shooting a G17. I was shooting the Sig at the same target at the same distance and it would shoot consistantly 6" low for me. I handed it to my buddy (who was use to shooting Sig's) and he was dead on. I discovered it was trigger control. If I slowed down and pulled the trigger slowly and evenly, POA=POI.

[BanginBonnie2]

Originally Posted by HamburgBoy84

I was out shooting this morning with my main CCW G19 and my Sig p226 BW Tactical. I'm starting to group the glock pretty well (at least all 15 rounds were on a paper plate @ about 20 ft) but I can't get more than 50% on the paper with the Sig. Most of them are at least 12" low etc. The gun is brand new and I'm not a great pistol shooter, but even bench resting this thing is not on target. Should I send it back to Sig? If anyone in my area would be willing to try it out and see if it's just me I'm open to that as well.

Hello H B 84,

Assuming you don't hand-load, have you tried other manufacturer/ bullet weights ?

If I buy something new, I usually buy every manufacturer and bullet combo I can afford for that particular cartridge/caliber ... you'll be amazed at the group differences.

When I find a good load/bullet/manuf. , that's what I stick with. If I find better groups with a specific bullet type or weight, that's the type or weight and/or manufacturer I will use for a hand-load.

For instance, I shoot a 240 gr. Hornady in a Ruger I have ... bought a box of Hornady factory loads and they shot well ... then I bought a box of Hornady bullets for reloading ... fooled around with different powders/loads and really shrunk the group.

You might ask a friend for 6 of this and 6 of that if he has the same and save yourself buying a full box.

[tlgpa]

Originally Posted by BanginBonnie2

Assuming you don't hand-load, have you tried other manufacturer/ bullet weights ?

If I buy something new, I usually buy every manufacturer and bullet combo I can afford for that particular cartridge/caliber ... you'll be amazed at the group differences.

At 20ft ammo quality isn't the cause of 12"+ groups. Even bullet weight is going to have a measureable effect. At 20ft, the difference between a 9mm 115gr and 147gr is 0.01".

[mythaeus]

Originally Posted by tlgpa

So 50% are on the plate and 50% are 12" low? Basically 12" grouping?
That's not the sights, that's inconsistant shooting. If 100% were grouping 12" low, perhaps the sights are the issue. But if at 20' you're not consistantly grouping within a paper plate, you need to get your grouping straightened out before looking at the gun.

I'm with you on this.

HB84, it's really easy to diagnose this: load a full mag, ask a range officer or someone near you who looks like they are holding decent groups to try your SIG out...FREE! No good/decent shooter is going to turn down a free shoot. Tell him/her that you're having a problem with the accuracy of the gun, but don't tell them what the problem is.

Al

[HamburgBoy84]

I had both guns out at the range again today. I put approx 250 rnds through them combined. I'm still grouping the Glock better, but I'm getting the Sig all on the paper now. Still low of my mark but better. Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Just looks like I need more rounds through the pipe and some work on the fundamentals.

[mythaeus]

Originally Posted by HamburgBoy84

I had both guns out at the range again today. I put approx 250 rnds through them combined. I'm still grouping the Glock better, but I'm getting the Sig all on the paper now. Still low of my mark but better. Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Just looks like I need more rounds through the pipe and some work on the fundamentals.

Here's your code:


Al

[BrowningBoy]

Mythaeus, Exellent video its a shame we can't all spend a few days with Jarrett

[mythaeus]

Originally Posted by BrowningBoy

Mythaeus, Exellent video its a shame we can't all spend a few days with Jarrett

This video was my money-saver and only teacher (minus the first-time-shooter 20-minute instructions at the range). I found it a few weeks after owning my first gun and still try to follow every bit of it (except the stance, I use Weaver). I teach first time shooters based on techniques in this video and every single one of them shoots many times better than first time shooters taught by range instructors (well, that and I am a little more hands-on, stand behind, and continually correct the shooter). The last girl I taught to shoot for the first time, shot my .44mag for a 6-shot 1" group at 21'. She nearly did the same with a .357mag earlier (had one strayed). I'll post a story about that when she sends me the photos of the session.

Al