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Default Kahr P380, smaller than Kel-Tec P-3AT

Kahr's got a little .380 in the works.

I love my PM9, but it shows a bit in light dress pants. Something smaller and lighter, but still trustworthy would be nice.

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Default Re: Kahr P380, smaller than Kel-Tec P-3AT

Smaller than a P3AT huh? The P3 is pretty small to begin with. I guess soon we'll end up with Keychain guns for self defense, It seems like as soon as someone comes out with a new gun, someone else is trying to make a smaller one. .

The Kahr will probably be a better quality built firearm, but of course that will come with a price, Over twice the P3 msrp. I use my P3 with a belt clip and with a tee Shirt there is absolutely no printing whatsoever, So I guess I don't need anything smaller for now.

Kel-Tecs aren't bad, but they seemed to be hit or miss in the problem department, but there isn't anything that a competent person couldn't fix themselves or send it back to Kel-Tec and they make it right. I've never had to use Kel-Tec service, But I understand it goes above and beyond most other manufacturers, which is good to know.

Before I bought the Kel-Tec I looked at the Kahrs pretty hard, but cost was a factor and I do have other firearms for CCW , So I had to pass and since my P3 has been 100% reliable, I guess I did ok.

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I like how it looks. I may take the plunge later this summer.
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Same functionality but 3x the price....ill pass its shinny though
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Same functionality....
I hope not!

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Default Re: Kahr P380, smaller than Kel-Tec P-3AT

Not a fan of .380's in general but it looks nice.
Going by retail price it is double the price of the Kel-Tec.
It will have real sights and a superior trigger.
If they can make it reliable it will easily be worth the price difference IMHO.
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Default Re: Kahr P380, smaller than Kel-Tec P-3AT

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Kahr's got a little .380 in the works.
Interesting. Didn't hear about this one. Thanks for the heads up.

I think I'm still going with the Ruger LCP......if I can find one.
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I just bought a new Ruger LCP .380 Auto!! You gotta check it out on their site. Don't get me wrong I'm a .45 man but for deep concealment it is smaller and sleeker than the Kel-Tec. I've yet to see the Kahr. I paid $320 for it, but they said it could be months before they get one in due to the high demand. I can't wait.
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I don't mean to bash Kel-Tec but all I have to ask is would you be willing to bet your life on it? Having owned and then sold a PF-9, I wouldn't.

They make fun guns, but for SD?

The Kahr looks pretty cool but I'd let any new gun model bugs get worked out on that one too before carrying it.
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I don't mean to bash Kel-Tec but all I have to ask is would you be willing to bet your life on it?...They make fun guns, but for SD?
I dont follow. My P11 has over 1k rounds through it, ranging from Wolf to Speer GDs, with total malfunctions counted on one hand. Within 30' I can empty the magazine very rapidly into a COM target without coloring outside the lines. The MecGar magazines are super-reliable. The sights may be fixed and spartan, with a long heavy trigger, but I put things like that far down the list in priorities for a compact SD gun.

I would actually have to say my KT is not a 'fun gun' to take to the range. Its ugly, doesnt group rounds tight enough to impress anyone, and it leaves my hand sore and scuffed after 100 rounds.

I will say the Kahrs, and similarly the Ruger, take the same things a KT can do, and add a lot of spit and polish. A Kahr will group nicely, and is well known for great sights. Ruger will probably outlive a dozen KTs. But those things come with a price.

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