Shooting at movie theater on Columbus Blvd

[godsgift215]

This is just sad. You cant even take your kids to the movies anymore without fearing for your life. Who in there right mind would take a gun to the movies unless you plans to cause drama.

[gnbrotz]

Originally Posted by godsgift215

This is just sad. You cant even take your kids to the movies anymore without fearing for your life. Who in there right mind would take a gun to the movies unless you plans to cause drama.

Ummm.....I would. I carry a gun in case I need to defend myself, not to "cause drama".

[godsgift215]

I CARRY A GUN ALSO BUT NOT IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD I CARRY IT IN THE MOVIES. THATS JUST ME. I CANT SPEAK FOR OTHERS.

[tl_3237]

Originally Posted by godsgift215

I CARRY A GUN ALSO BUT NOT IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD I CARRY IT IN THE MOVIES. THATS JUST ME. I CANT SPEAK FOR OTHERS.

Pray tell, to what places do YOU carry?

[Tootie]

Originally Posted by godsgift215

I CARRY A GUN ALSO BUT NOT IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD I CARRY IT IN THE MOVIES. THATS JUST ME. I CANT SPEAK FOR OTHERS.

Please stop YELLING. Thank you


I also carry everywhere, whether it's in a theater or at a soccer game

And here's just a few reasons why

Theater-shooting suspect arrested


2 Police Officers Wounded in Shooting at Movie Theater in California


Police hunting man who robbed Arbor Cinema in North Austin



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[JIDinPhilly]

New info about the shooter. Iraq veteran and a marksman.
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...-Shooting.html

[Pa. Patriot]

Originally Posted by godsgift215

... Who in there right mind would take a gun to the movies unless you plans to cause drama.

What?!?

So by this same logic you would not have a fire extinguisher unless you planned on starting a fire?

Please! Many of us carry firearms, as in all the time, as a safety device. That does not mean we are going to use them inappropriately.

Now if what you are saying is that you do not trust yourself to be able to carry a firearm and not use it in an inappropriate way, then by all means please do not carry one. But keep in mind your issue has no basis in comparison to anyone else here or elsewhere that carries a firearm.

[PennsyPlinker]

Originally Posted by godsgift215

I CARRY A GUN ALSO BUT NOT IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD I CARRY IT IN THE MOVIES. THATS JUST ME. I CANT SPEAK FOR OTHERS.

Well you must have a crystal ball that can see into the future for real, since you know when you will and when you won't need a gun. But let's say you were at the movies and let's say you were running your yap. Then you might need a gun to defend yourself against someone who wouldn't think twice about shooting you for making yourself obnoxious.

Now I can see you coming back to this thread and saying you would never be obnoxious. But you are doing so right now with your attitude about who should carry and where the should or should not carry. I'll bet you wouldn't carry in a restaurant, or at a school, or in a church, or any of those other gun free zones, because no one ever needs a gun there, right? And think of all the children at the movies! Why, that is almost like carrying at a soccer game. No one would ever need a gun there. Maybe you could tell us exactly where you think you might need a gun?

Hey, you aren't a sock puppet for ALPAPS, are you?

[Pa. Patriot]

Originally Posted by gnbrotz

Even based on that statement, it's not a "good shoot". The shooter initiated contact, and (apparently) did not attempt to retreat. The fact that the other guy (apparently) was not armed, and that the shooter initiated and escalated the situation pretty much eliminates the "I couldn't safely retreat" and/or "I was in fear for my life" arguments, which are what you need in order to successfully meet the legal requirements for use of deadly force in public.

I don't think you can make these types of conclusions based on the info in Yawns post.

Initiating contact does not make one intelligible to defend oneself.

Asking someone to quiet down may or may not be an initiation of force dependent on how it went down. Same as asking someone "excuse me" to allow you to pass them by.

Also, we do not know if he could retreat. If he was in fear for his life, and being beat on by multiple attackers can certainly put your life at risk, he may be justified.

Again, I'm not going to make that call on the info presented, even in an hypothetical sense. I don't think there is nearly enough info.

[Holden23]

Charges:
1 18 § 2702 §§ Aggravated Assault 12/25/2008
2 18 § 2501 §§ Criminal Attempt - Criminal Homicide 12/25/2008
3 18 § 6106 §§ Firearms Not To Be Carried W/O License 12/25/2008
4 18 § 6108 §§ Carry Firearms Public In Phila 12/25/2008
5 18 § 907 §§ Poss Instrument Of Crime W/Int 12/25/2008
6 18 § 2701 §§ Simple Assault 12/25/2008
7 18 § 2705 §§ Recklessly Endangering Another Person 12/25/2008

Apparently he did not have an LTCF.

http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/CP.aspx