HB 1745 Extra 2% tax on ammo / firearms

[WhiteFeather]

Here are two more bills by the anti-gunners from Philadelphia.
You will notice how they are attacking even on other fronts like through the finance committee and trying to tax our rights away


By James. Amends the Tax Reform Code providing for the imposition of an additional tax on ammunition. http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&BN=1745

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF PENNSYLVANIA
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HOUSE BILL
No. 1745 Session of 2007
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INTRODUCED BY JAMES, YOUNGBLOOD, JOSEPHS, CURRY, KIRKLAND,
MYERS, THOMAS AND WILLIAMS, JULY 13, 2007
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REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON FINANCE, JULY 13, 2007
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AN ACT

1 Amending the act of March 4, 1971 (P.L.6, No.2), entitled "An
2 act relating to tax reform and State taxation by codifying
3 and enumerating certain subjects of taxation and imposing
4 taxes thereon; providing procedures for the payment,
5 collection, administration and enforcement thereof; providing
6 for tax credits in certain cases; conferring powers and
7 imposing duties upon the Department of Revenue, certain
8 employers, fiduciaries, individuals, persons, corporations
9 and other entities; prescribing crimes, offenses and
10 penalties," providing for the imposition of an additional tax
11 on ammunition.

12 The General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
13 hereby enacts as follows:
14 Section 1. The act of March 4, 1971 (P.L.6, No.2), known as
15 the Tax Reform Code of 1971, is amended by adding a section to
16 read:
17 Section 202.1. Imposition of Tax on Firearms and
18 Ammunition.--In addition to any tax imposed under section 202,
19 there is imposed upon each separate sale at retail of firearms
20 ammunition, within this Commonwealth, a tax of two per cent of
21 the purchase price, which shall be collected by the vendor from
22 the purchaser and shall be paid over to the Commonwealth as


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1 provided in this article.
2 Section 2. This act shall take effect in 60 days.


BH 1746 Thomas. Act authorizing cities of the first class to impose restrictions on the purchase, sale and possession of firearms.

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&BN=1746

[OneLungMcClung]

Thank you for posting this!


I think, for those of you who know this, that this is about gun control, NOT revenue generation. Philadelphia can't even spend the (very high) taxes its generates now correctly. Why do they need more money?

[RoyJackson]

This is a very dangerous bill!

2% doesn't sound like much, but look what they do with cigaret taxes annually.
Please call your representative and ensure this bill goes NO WHERE!

[TonyF]

What a bunch of money grubbing leeches.

[RoyJackson]

Originally Posted by TonyF

What a bunch of money grubbing leeches.

It's NOT the money....don't even think that. It's the same as smoking...the legislature is trying to tax gun ownership out of existence.

[Kenshin]

So the real question becomes will this ban all of the online ordering of ammunition to the state of PA? Since the people who would ship it would have to pay the 2% tax and probably wouldn't really feel like the hassle just like the other states that cant have ammo shipped to them.

Very very bad...

[MTechnik]

Originally Posted by Kenshin

So the real question becomes will this ban all of the online ordering of ammunition to the state of PA? Since the people who would ship it would have to pay the 2% tax and probably wouldn't really feel like the hassle just like the other states that cant have ammo shipped to them.

Very very bad...

Buy enough in quantity and it could be official tax evasion, no?

[jack76590]

Originally Posted by Kenshin

So the real question becomes will this ban all of the online ordering of ammunition to the state of PA? Since the people who would ship it would have to pay the 2% tax and probably wouldn't really feel like the hassle just like the other states that cant have ammo shipped to them.

Very very bad...

Presently you don't pay the 6% regular Pa sales tax on out of state ammo purchases. So if we can avoid the present 6% tax why would adding an extra 2% change the situation. It could in fact increase out of State purchases. At present postage is probably more than the 6% tax so we basically chose between local purchase and out of State on price per round. If tax became 8% total the out of State people may have an increased competitive advantage.

[RoyJackson]

Originally Posted by jack76590

Presently you don't pay the 6% regular Pa sales tax on out of state ammo purchases. So if we can avoid the present 6% tax why would adding an extra 2% change the situation. It could in fact increase out of State purchases. At present postage is probably more than the 6% tax so we basically chose between local purchase and out of State on price per round. If tax became 8% total the out of State people may have an increased competitive advantage.

Good point, but I'm sure you're aware there are a number of states that want to tax internet purchases. So far, that movement has not been successful. That won't necessarily stay that way...especially after the next election.

But we want to prevent ammo and firearms from being taxed the way cigarets are (so called "sin tax").

Taxes are to pay for governmental services. They should not be used for social engineering, which is what this bill is attempting to do.

[dmg1969]

Besides trying to hit gun owners in the pocketbook, I find it ironic that they fear guns so much, yet want the state to profit from the sales of guns and ammo. Yet another example of a bad Bill aimed at law-abiding gun owners. I'm fairly positive that not too many inner-city criminals pay sales tax on the guns and ammo they purchase.......