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    Default Re: House Judiciary vote on Pro-Gun bills Tues 3/18!

    Quote Originally Posted by rckeystone View Post
    Interesting reply I got back from RoseMarie Swanger:

    When I have time to research the subjects of the two bills and the amendments, I will consider your request. It would really help if these requests would include a brief explanation of the purpose of the legislation. Really, could you remember the numbers of over 2,000 bills?

    OK. I guess maybe I should have spelled out the bill for her but I would think if it's about to be voted on she would have some idea what is says.
    I think her reply was reasonable and promising; it wasn't a form response, it directly addressed the content of the email.

    The usual robo-responses suck; "Thank you for expressing your opinion about the GUN BILL YOU MENTIONED. Rest assured, I am studying this issue very carefully and will vote after proper consideration."

    These gun bills are misunderstood even by lots of people who are knee-deep in gun rights, there's been opposition to a bill that is desperately needed by thousands of Pennsylvanians who lost their gun rights and really want to see this bill enacted, but even some of the pro-gun activists initially opposed it, based on their misunderstanding. Why would we expect that legislators who focus on other things, like jobs or taxes or fracking or highway funding or schools or health care or home financing or pedophiles or Internet fraud or the National Guard or govt waste or Welfare or water purity ....... or any of a thousand other things....why would we expect them to immediately know what a particular bill or amendment does?

    What are your thoughts on SB 1315, for example?

    Honestly, I can relate to this. To all of my clients, their case is understandably the focus of their attention, at least while they dial the phone to call me. But when they call and say "Hey, it's Bob, what's happening?", I'm usually in the dark as to who they are. "You know, I'm Bob, about the guns?" Yes, Bob, a lot of my cases are about the guns. Help me to help you, say "It's Bob Smith, you're doing a pardon for me." THAT helps, it saves us both time, and allows me to figure out which Bob you are.

    (The most inexplicable are the clients who call and say "hey, it's me." If we didn't have dinner together last night, I have no idea who "me" is, especially when the caller ID is only telling me "cell phone - PA".)

    This is an opportunity for you to educate and nudge your representatives. Ask them, "what's your opinion on HB 1243, which would fix the problem created by judicial activism of the Superior Court when it misinterpreted a statute that you folks enacted, so that the Restoration of Rights law is now incapable of ever restoring gun rights to the very people it was intended to help?" That sets the tone, and is a data point for your representative to factor in.
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    Default Re: House Judiciary vote on Pro-Gun bills Tues 3/18!

    I sent emails to all of the addresses. So far I only got a few replies. Here they are.

    Bill Kortz -

    "I took an oath to obey, support, and defend the constitution of the United States and that of the Commonwealth of Pa. I take this oath very seriously. I will not infringe on our rights".

    Sincerely,
    Bill Kortz
    S.R. 38th District

    Matthew Baker -

    "I agree".

    Greg Lucas -

    "Got it"

    If I receive anymore replies I will be sure to pass them on. Keep up the fight. It only takes 10 minutes of your time to send out an email out to all.

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    Default Re: House Judiciary vote on Pro-Gun bills Tues 3/18!

    Quote Originally Posted by matucci View Post
    I sent emails to all of the addresses. So far I only got a few replies. Here they are.

    Bill Kortz -

    "I took an oath to obey, support, and defend the constitution of the United States and that of the Commonwealth of Pa. I take this oath very seriously. I will not infringe on our rights".

    Sincerely,
    Bill Kortz
    S.R. 38th District

    Matthew Baker -

    "I agree".

    Greg Lucas -

    "Got it"

    If I receive anymore replies I will be sure to pass them on. Keep up the fight. It only takes 10 minutes of your time to send out an email out to all.
    Those seem encouraging. Especially the first response.

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    Default Re: House Judiciary vote on Pro-Gun bills Tues 3/18!

    I agree. Bill Kortz seems like a stand up guy. Lets hope others feel the same way. It's ridiculous that we have to be so proactive to protect our rights. They represent such a small % of the populous yet they have the power to infringe on our rights. Its a shame!

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    Default Re: House Judiciary vote on Pro-Gun bills Tues 3/18!

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    I think her reply was reasonable and promising; it wasn't a form response, it directly addressed the content of the email.

    The usual robo-responses suck; "Thank you for expressing your opinion about the GUN BILL YOU MENTIONED. Rest assured, I am studying this issue very carefully and will vote after proper consideration."
    I agree. I sent her an email earlier thanking her for the update on the vote and for taking the time to reply to my emails. I then wished her a good day for added measure.

    Whether a rep agrees with my request on a vote or not I do appreciate it if they actually takes the time to give a real reply.
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    Default Re: House Judiciary vote on Pro-Gun bills Tues 3/18!

    Quote Originally Posted by 17glock17 View Post
    That is a pretty sad response.
    My response from Ms. Swanger was as follows:

    Mr. Flyingjunkie, I'm a member of the NRA, NRA certified in pistol, possess a carry permit, and own several handguns. That should tell you where I stand.
    I'll take that to mean she supports 2011
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    Default Re: House Judiciary vote on Pro-Gun bills Tues 3/18!

    Quote Originally Posted by flyingjunkie View Post
    My response from Ms. Swanger was as follows:



    I'll take that to mean she supports 2011
    I stand correct. Gunlawyer brought up some good points as well.

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    Default Re: House Judiciary vote on Pro-Gun bills Tues 3/18!

    I have to say that it's quite sad that I emailed every member of the house and only got responses from 6 people...

    On a side note: WHAT A BUNCH OF LAZY F***S! In session at 11AM, break until 1PM, vote on 3 bills, thank people for stupid Shit, adjourn for the day at 2PM. WTF ARE WE PAYING THEM FOR!?
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    Default Re: House Judiciary vote on Pro-Gun bills Tues 3/18!

    Current Status: See WhiteFeather's post from earlier today:
    http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...ml#post2693025

    It seems like these bills are encountering a lot of political pushback. We shouldn't let that stop us though; KEEP PUTTING PRESSURE on the legislators. The more they hear from us, the more difficult it will be for them to prevent this legislation from getting fair consideration. And given that the bills could be getting held up due to weak-kneed House leadership (which are Republican):

    I'd suggest that as many people as possible CALL the offices of Rep. Sam Smith and Rep. Mike Turzai. Tell them to stop playing politics with our rights, and to allow HB2011 and HB1243 to be considered for a vote! Their contact information is below:

    Samuel H. Smith
    shsmith@pahousegop.com
    HBG: (717) 7873845
    Dist: (814) 9384225

    Michael Turzai
    mturzai@pahousegop.com
    HBG: (717) 7729943
    Dist: (412) 3692230
    Contact info for the rest of the House is here:
    http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-...ml#post2690456
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    Default Re: House Judiciary vote on Pro-Gun bills Tues 3/18!

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteFeather View Post

    It appears to be we are getting the shaft again

    from the Republicans leadership in the house

    There have been some heated discussions in caucus meeting about running these bills and the non sense of 120 plus amendments being filed to a single bill, and how this wouldn't have been tolerated by past leadership.

    At this point the past house democratic leadership did more to support gun rights, than this current REPUBLICAN leadership has done over the last three plus years.

    KEEP ON THEM TO RUN THE BILLS especially the Republican so called leadership ( Sam Smith - Mike Turzai )
    WhiteFeather-

    Thanks so much for your continued updates on the situation in the House.

    Could you shed any light on the process through which bills are actually brought to the floor for a vote? Is this a decision made strictly by the Republican leadership, or is some kind of vote taken? Is there the possibility that HB 2011 is simply never put to the floor again for a vote?

    I'm also interested in the amendments. I tried to find the text online but it seems like the state legislature website only posts amendments that are actually voted on. Are the text of these amendments available elsewhere?

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