Nutter Says NRA Owes Slain Officer's Family An Apology

[Agent Smith]

Right, like his idiotic laws would have prevented this

[larrymeyer]

I'd like to hear where Eric Floyd got/brought ? His AK

[WhiteFeather]

If you buy a firearm and its stolen or you sold it, the AG politicians want to still accountable for the actions of that firearm out of your control don’t they? They are always proposing a another law to stop criminals by attempting to make you into a criminal because you own guns.

How about LEGAL holding the DA and judge that did plea bargain deal for his last criminal offenses to the same standard they want to hold gun owners for having control of them. How about also holding the parole commission that approved this repeat criminal to the same standard.

Why are they all not held accountable for their dangerous products they let loose on the streets?

WHY IS SO FRACKEN IMPORTANT TO SOCIETY TO LET THESE CARREER CRIMINALS OUT OF JAIL EARLY when they were put in jail for their bad behavior?

Why it is always the citizens and police have to pay in blood for there mistakes and yet the system is never held accountable?

Can someone please enlighten me?

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news..._sentence.html

Phila. cop killer paroled after serving minimum sentence

The man who police said killed Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski was under parole supervision for a 1996 Philadelphia robbery after serving the minimum of a 9- to 18-year prison sentence, according to state officials.
Howard Cain, 34, is alleged to have fired five shots from a high-powered Chinese SKS rifle at Liczbinski in a confrontation in Port Richmond after a bank robbery on Saturday.

Liczbinski, 39, later died at Temple University Hospital from multiple gunshot wounds. Cain, whose last known residence was in North Philadelphia, was cornered by police in Feltonville and fatally shot.

Police arrested Cain's alleged accomplice, Lavon T. Warner, 39, and are searching for a third man, Eric DeShann Floyd, 33, who is considered armed and dangerous.

Cain entered the state prison system on Nov. 12, 1997 to serve a 9- to 18-year sentence for robbery, said Susan McNaughton, spokeswoman for the state Department of Corrections.

Just shy of nine years later - his minimum sentence - Cain was sent to Lycoming House, a halfway facility at 1712 Point Breeze Ave. in South Philadelphia, on Sept. 5, 2006, McNaughton said.

That followed a decision by the Pennsylvania Board of Probation and Parole nine days earlier to grant Cain parole at his first hearing.

On Dec. 12 of that year, Cain walked out of Lycoming House a free man.

However, Cain was subject to parole supervision until the year 2015.

Leo Dunn, a spokesman for the parole board, said Cain's release was based on five considerations.

"First of all, his acceptance of responsibility for the offense committed," Dunn said. "His participation in and completion of prescribed institutional programs. The positive recommendation made by the Department of Corrections. His reported institutional behavior. And his placement in a community corrections residency."

Dunn did not know how frequently Cain was required to meet his parole officer, but Cain had to follow a series of requirements to maintain his freedom, including drug tests and avoidance of alcohol.

Overall, Dunn said, the board granted parole in 61 percent of its cases in March, the most recent month for which statistics were available.

The robbery sentence stemmed from a string of armed robberies of state liquor store in West and Southwest Philadelphia in 1996.

Cain, then 23 at the time of the robberies and listed as 5-feet 8-inches tall and weighing 167 pounds, was found guilty a year later in one case and pleaded guilty in another.

Cain also had a history of fighting and fleeing from the police, court records show.

In 1993, Cain stole a car in West Philadelphia and crashed it into a fence after a brief chase by police. He was sentenced to 11 and ½ to 23 months in city jail.

In 1996, he was stopped by police and reportedly began punching at the officers and then running away. He was caught and sentenced to no more than 23 months in city jail.

At various times when he was arrested, he gave aliases such as Cameron Washington, Howard View and Kevin G. Williams.

Cain appeared to move from address to address and did not have a job any of the times he was arrested. Court files show he attended West Philadelphia High School and got as far as the 11th grade. He later claimed to have received a GED.

He indicated in 1996 that he had a child who was not living with him.

Cain's alleged accomplices in Saturday's bank robbery also had prior convictions for robbery. Warner was sentenced in 1997 to 5 to 10 years. Floyd was sentenced to 1 to 5 years for a 1994 robbery.

[larrymeyer]

Reading this thread I had a horrible thought. Could the BG with the AK sue Phila if he's charged under the Mayors new laws ?

[sfg]

The guy with the rifle is already dead, so he's probably not suing anyone.

-sfg

[KeithPA]

Clearly the PA Assembly and Governor Rendel owes this officer's family an apology.

If they had outlawed murder this wouldn't have happened.

[knighthawk06699]

Yeah cause I am sure that the gun was bought legally. This guy is nuts he has lost his damn mind. Well them McDonalds owes million of apologies for all the heart attacks they have caused. If I am not mistaken didn't this wing nut fall through the judicial system? Way to go Nutter use a very tradgic situation to get back on your soap box. The only thing that the NRA owes anyone is a swift kick in the ass for Nutter...God what a jack ass!!!

[ccphilly1984]

Originally Posted by knighthawk06699

Yeah cause I am sure that the gun was bought legally. This guy is nuts he has lost his damn mind. Well them McDonalds owes million of apologies for all the heart attacks they have caused. If I am not mistaken didn't this wing nut fall through the judicial system? Way to go Nutter use a very tradgic situation to get back on your soap box. The only thing that the NRA owes anyone is a swift kick in the ass for Nutter...God what a jack ass!!!

well nutter won't get a swift kick in the ass for acting the fool... notice how most of the repliers here are from outside the city? Most of the people in philadelphia are naive and will vote for anyone promising to be "tough on crime" and "tough on guns" ... the few inteligent people that are left are in better neighborhoods of the city and live in the city because they want to be near family or work... now my family realized the bullshit government 10 years ago and all my cousins that lived within 5 minutes from me and my family all moved between bensalem, warminster, and landsdale areas.

[BerksCountyDave]

You know, I've stepped out of my denial box and faced the fact that in all likelihood we will see the AWB reinstated in the near future. It's looking more and more like a Dem is going to win the White House, and we know they're both heavily in favor of the AWB. And now since this fucking idiot used whatever rifle it was, it's just going to add fuel to the anti's fire.

WE all know that the AWB did NOTHING to prevent crime and would have done NOTHING to prevent this crime, but the vast majority of the American public doesn't.

So, with that said, I'm having my first AR-15 built SOON, while I still can. This shit makes me sick.

[billamj]

If you want a truly scary thought how about an AWB that does not grandfather existing firearms? It could happen. This is only one of the reasons that we need to make sure that pro-2A candidates, from whichever party, are elected to at least one of the two houses of congress. That is the only way we can make sure that our rights are protected.