Lets Change the UFA, why not?

[CZ40P]

I really wonder what was the logic behind the using phrase " License To Carry Firearm".To me it seems confusing. You don't need a license to carry a firearm, only to carry concealed or in a car. The term "License to Carry a Firearm" is used all the time in the press. Sentences like "He was licensed to carry a firearm" or "The taxi driver was licensed to carry a gun" seem to pop up in the press all the time. To me this just seems to perpetuate the myth that you need some sort of license just to own a gun in Pennsylvania. As I get older and more cynical, I truly believe that what we see in the press is carefully crafted to reflect the world as the left wishes it where, rather than reality. The less a right is acknowledged, the less the people invoke it.

I really think we should start some sort of legislative initiative to streamline and tweak the UFA. The left wing grabbers have shown that they no intentions of ever stopping. They are going to continue to spew lies in the press. They are going to continue to introduce restrictive legislation time and time again. They are going to keep it up until they get an opening, then two, then three. After Ed Rendell there will be some new left wing traitor trying to subvert the constitution. They just keep coming, kind of like the Chinese in Korea.

Instead of waiting for the next wave, we should go on the offensive. We should organize all of the pro gun groups together. We should start demanding the changes we want. Instead of the anti-freedom forces trying to take away what we already have lets make them fight and spend more of George Soros' money to keep us from getting our rights defined and expanded. Lets propose some common sense gun laws of our own. Instead of crying " Don't take away my rights" lets Demand More , More , More.
The democrats in this state keep quoting some bullshit poll to claim that most Pennsylvanians want more gun control. Lets prove them wrong and show them for the liars they are.

Here is my list of changes.

1. Change the name of the "permit" to a Concealed Carry Permit. use plain english in the law.

2. State by statute "No permit is required for Open Carry"

3. Remove the sheriff's discretion to revoke without a hearing.

4. Make the permit process the same in all counties and Philadelphia. That means the same form, the same time frame, and the same requirements No more local hurdles.

5. Abolish the State Police illegal database by statute. No wiggle room

6. Make the Permit an exception to the Brady Law

7. Make the permit or license of any state valid in PA.

8 Make open carry legal (by statute) in a vehicle.

Did I forget anything?
Lets remind the democrats what Bill Clinton's gun ban cost them in 1994

OK I'll relax Now

[gnbrotz]

Just my opinions:

1. Change the name of the "permit" to a Concealed Carry Permit. use plain english in the law.
I disagree. The license is also require for OC in Philly and any carry during a "declared emergency". Leave as is.

2. State by statute "No permit is required for Open Carry"
Not necessary. Two Supreme Court cases already affirm this.

3. Remove the sheriff's discretion to revoke without a hearing.
Agreed.

4. Make the permit process the same in all counties and Philadelphia. That means the same form, the same time frame, and the same requirements No more local hurdles.
Already exists by statute. What we need is for citizens to challenge the jurisdictions that violate the UFA.

5. Abolish the State Police illegal database by statute. No wiggle room
Agreed.

6. Make the Permit an exception to the Brady Law
What specifically would this change?

7. Make the permit or license of any state valid in PA.
No comments on this (yet).

8 Make open carry legal (by statute) in a vehicle.
Agreed.

Did I forget anything?
Strike the 'character and reputation' clause as a reason for revocation.

[Statkowski]

Concerning the illegal State Police database, either I'm reading the UFA wrong or it's already prohibited, to wit:

18 Pa. C.S. §6111(b)(1.1)(v): Unless it has been discovered pursuant to a criminal history, juvenile delinquency and mental health records background check that the potential purchaser or transferee is prohib­ited from possessing a firearm pursuant to section 6105 (relating to persons not to possess, use, manufacture, control, sell or transfer firearms), no information on the application/record of sale provided pursuant to this subsection shall be retained as precluded by section 6111.4 (relating to registration of firearms) by the Pennsylvania State Police either through retention of the application/record of sale or by entering the information on a computer, and, further, an application/record of sale received by the Pennsylvania State Police pursuant to this subsec­tion shall be destroyed within 72 hours of the completion of the criminal history, juvenile de­linquency and mental health records background check.

18 Pa. C.S. §6111(b)(6): Unless it has been discovered pursuant to a criminal history, juvenile delinquency and mental health records background check that the potential purchaser or transferee is prohib­ited from possessing a firearm pursuant to section 6105, no information received via tele­phone following the implementation of the instantaneous background check system from a purchaser or transferee who has received a unique approval number shall be retained by the Pennsylvania State Police.

[markheck1]

you must be reading it wrong, because there IS no registry in PA...Of Course

[Statkowski]

Stop state agencies from writing regulations prohibiting the lawful carrying of firearms (state parks, the Capitol Complex in Harrisburg and casinoes). If necessary, that is something for our elected officials to address, not an unelected bureaucrat.

[gnbrotz]

I consider the Capitol Complex to be a legitimate 'prohibited place'. The Supreme Court is there, making it a 'court facility'.

[mpi]

take the sheriff's out of the process altogether, make it truly shall issue and designate the state drivers license centers as the pick up place and the AG's office as the authorizing entity.

[Kenshin]

Originally Posted by gnbrotz

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6. Make the Permit an exception to the Brady Law
What specifically would this change?

He means if you hold a permit you do not need to go through the PICS or NICS check.

[Statkowski]

I consider the Capitol Complex to be a legitimate 'prohibited place'. The Supreme Court is there, making it a 'court facility'.

The building where the Supreme Court sits is indeed a 'court facility' (and 18 Pa. C.S. 913 applies), but 49 Pa. Code 61.1 prohibits the lawful carry of firearms in all owned and leased State Department buildings in Harrisburg.

[gnbrotz]

Originally Posted by Kenshin

He means if you hold a permit you do not need to go through the PICS or NICS check.

I agree with this change.

Originally Posted by Statkowski

The building where the Supreme Court sits is indeed a 'court facility' (and 18 Pa. C.S. 913 applies), but 49 Pa. Code 61.1 prohibits the lawful carry of firearms in all owned and leased State Department buildings in Harrisburg.

Understood. Got a link to the code?