Mossberg cruiser 500

**scubadvr** · December 20th, 2011, 09:44 PM

Is it transferred as a long gun or a hand gun or aow. It seems to me the ATF (and perhaps local law enforcement) had a special rule for it as it has no stock only a pistol grip. Does anyone know? Thank you.

**knight0334** · December 20th, 2011, 10:24 PM

It is transferred as "other firearm". It is not a long gun because it lacks a stock, and it's over the dimensions for it to be a AOW or SBS - that makes it an "other firearm".

Which means you must be 21yo to have a FFL transfer one to you.

**son of the revolution** · December 23rd, 2011, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by knight0334

It is transferred as "other firearm". It is not a long gun because it lacks a stock, and it's over the dimensions for it to be a AOW or SBS - that makes it an "other firearm".

Which means you must be 21yo to have a FFL transfer one to you.

This is funny to me. As horrible as NJ is on gun rights, NJ treats any pistol grip, pump action shotgun like the Mossberg as a " long gun ". I can walk in, show my FID Card, fill out the 4473 and walk out with it.

**knight0334** · December 23rd, 2011, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by son of the revolution

This is funny to me. As horrible as NJ is on gun rights, NJ treats any pistol grip, pump action shotgun like the Mossberg as a " long gun ". I can walk in, show my FID Card, fill out the 4473 and walk out with it.

How I described above is federal law on Pistol Grip Only shotguns. They aren't a long gun under federal law. Only long guns with shoulder stocks can be transferred from a FFL to a person under 21yo(but older than 18yo).

PA makes no additional requirement on the transfer of pistol grip only shotguns that exceed "firearm" dimensions. If the PGO shotgun has a barrel less than 18" and/or an overall length less than 26" then it is a "firearm" under PA law, which then requires the PSP record of sale form to be filled out.

**Shisno** · January 1st, 2012, 01:03 PM

Curious: since its not a long gun, could I transport it in my vehicle loaded with my LTCF?

**Gun** · January 1st, 2012, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Shisno

Curious: since its not a long gun, could I transport it in my vehicle loaded with my LTCF?

... as well as an AR styled pistol with an OAL > 26"?

**Shisno** · January 1st, 2012, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Gun

... as well as an AR styled pistol with an OAL > 26"?

My understanding (I've been wrong many times before and could possibly be now) is that the AR style pistols and AK47 draco pistol is covered under the LTCF because they are recognized as pistols.

But really. I would like to know if I can transport that shotgun loaded in my vehicle. Could be very helpful to know.