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Holy cow..... I tried reading this thing but I just don't understand the wording. Can someone translate into plain english please?
I think it says that transporting any firearm without a LTCF would be illegal. Right?? Ya wanna know what I think... I think PhilaF***ingdelphia should be divided off of PA and annexed onto New F***ingjersey. Pardon my rant.
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§ 6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license. (a) Offense defined.--Any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree. (b) Exceptions.--The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to: Constables, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens, or their deputies, policemen of this Commonwealth or its political subdivisions, or other law-enforcement officers. Members of the army, navy or marine corps of the United States or of the National Guard or organized reserves when on duty. The regularly enrolled members of any organization duly organized to purchase or receive such weapons from the United States or from this Commonwealth. Any persons engaged in target shooting with rifle, pistol, or revolver, if such persons are at or are going to or from their places of assembly or target practice and if, while going to or from their places of assembly or target practice, the cartridges or shells are carried in a separate container and the rifle, pistol or revolver is unloaded. Officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry a concealed firearm. Agents, messengers and other employees of common carriers, banks, or business firms, whose duties require them to protect moneys, valuables and other property in the discharge of such duties. Any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person, having in his possession, using or carrying a firearm in the usual or ordinary course of such business. Any person while carrying a firearm unloaded and in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his home or place of business, or to a place of repair or back to his home or place of business, or in moving from one place of abode or business to another or from his home to a vacation or recreational home or dwelling or back, or to recover stolen property under section 6111.1(b)(4) (relating to Pennsylvania State Police) or to a location to which the person has been directed to surrender firearms under 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108 (relating to relief) or back upon return of the surrendered firearm. Persons licensed to hunt, take furbearers or fish in this Commonwealth, if such persons are actually hunting, taking furbearers or fishing or are going to the places where they desire to hunt, take furbearers or fish or returning from such places. Persons training dogs, if such persons are actually training dogs during the regular training season. Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state. (c) Sportsman's firearm permit.-- Before any exception shall be granted under paragraph (b)(9) or (10) of this section to any person 18 years of age or older licensed to hunt, trap or fish or who has been issued a permit relating to hunting dogs, such person shall, at the time of securing his hunting, furtaking or fishing license or any time after such license has been issued, secure a sportsman's firearm permit from the county treasurer. The sportsman's firearm permit shall be issued immediately and be valid throughout this Commonwealth for a period of five years from the date of issue for any legal firearm, when carried in conjunction with a valid hunting, furtaking or fishing license or permit relating to hunting dogs. The sportsman's firearm permit shall be in triplicate on a form to be furnished by the Pennsylvania State Police. The original permit shall be delivered to the person, and the first copy thereof, within seven days, shall be forwarded to the Commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police by the county treasurer. The second copy shall be retained by the county treasurer for a period of two years from the date of expiration. The county treasurer shall be entitled to collect a fee of not more than $6 for each such permit issued, which shall include the cost of any official form. The Pennsylvania State Police may recover from the county treasurer the cost of any such form, but may not charge more than $1 for each official permit form furnished to the county treasurer. Any person who sells or attempts to sell a sportsman's firearm permit for a fee in excess of that amount fixed under this subsection commits a summary offense. (d) Revocation of registration.--Any registration of a firearm under subsection (c) of this section may be revoked by the county treasurer who issued it, upon written notice to the holder thereof.
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no they want your car..
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This law mirrors the sections of the Federal Assets/Forfeiture statues. What it does provide is a way for the state to seize tangible property from those violating the Violations of Uniform Firearm Act section, specifically section 6106, Firearms not to be Carried without a License. The law does not apply to ANY law abiding citizen. In short, if you have a license to carry you are not violating this law. If you are going to/from a range, a gun shop, or any of the laundry list of exceptions listed in this law, and your weapon is unloaded with the ammunition being stored separately, you are not violating this law.
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This is what I wrote to Andrew Washington, first sponsor of this bill:
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So they are trying to do away with OC without a LTCF?
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If I read correctly (IANAL), then if I have a passenger who is carrying illegally my car is subject to seizure. To get my car returned the burden of proof is on me to prove that the illegal act was done without my knowledge.
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It appears that way.
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Highlighted the section where so many hunters and target shooter WITHOUT a LTCF break the law.
There is NO exemption in law for transporting firearms for stopping any where IF you do, you break the law even if its only to eat dinner, or even to stop and get gas. Think that statement is extreme contact Kim Stolfer he will give you specific examples of people being prosecuted for exactly this violation of the law, Kim will provide you more than the shorten version I give here as examples. one guy bought a new hand gun from FFL dealer stopped at sister house to show it to here and got stopped for traffic stop and admitted he stopped at sister home - Not allowed to own firearms now. other guy stopped coming back from hunting and had firearms in truck and got the same thing - Not allowed to own firearms now. Read the section again their is no exception in law for stopping anywhere in transportation, crazy I know but you could lose your rights for this stupid omission in the law if you are caught and prosecuted for transporting firearms without a LTCF. It a very real problem in curent law, I warn people about this all the time and yet they do what ever they want, most do not have the money to defend themselves in court yet think it won't happen to them. § 6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license. (a) Offense defined.--Any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree. (b) Exceptions.--The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to: Constables, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens, or their deputies, policemen of this Commonwealth or its political subdivisions, or other law-enforcement officers. Members of the army, navy or marine corps of the United States or of the National Guard or organized reserves when on duty. The regularly enrolled members of any organization duly organized to purchase or receive such weapons from the United States or from this Commonwealth. Any persons engaged in target shooting with rifle, pistol, or revolver, if such persons are at or are going to or from their places of assembly or target practice and if, while going to or from their places of assembly or target practice, the cartridges or shells are carried in a separate container and the rifle, pistol or revolver is unloaded. Officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry a concealed firearm. Agents, messengers and other employees of common carriers, banks, or business firms, whose duties require them to protect moneys, valuables and other property in the discharge of such duties. Any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person, having in his possession, using or carrying a firearm in the usual or ordinary course of such business. Any person while carrying a firearm unloaded and in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his home or place of business, or to a place of repair or back to his home or place of business, or in moving from one place of abode or business to another or from his home to a vacation or recreational home or dwelling or back, or to recover stolen property under section 6111.1(b)(4) (relating to Pennsylvania State Police) or to a location to which the person has been directed to surrender firearms under 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108 (relating to relief) or back upon return of the surrendered firearm. Persons licensed to hunt, take furbearers or fish in this Commonwealth, if such persons are actually hunting, taking furbearers or fishing or are going to the places where they desire to hunt, take furbearers or fish or returning from such places. Persons training dogs, if such persons are actually training dogs during the regular training season. Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state. (c) Sportsman's firearm permit.-- Before any exception shall be granted under paragraph (b)(9) or (10) of this section to any person 18 years of age or older licensed to hunt, trap or fish or who has been issued a permit relating to hunting dogs, such person shall, at the time of securing his hunting, furtaking or fishing license or any time after such license has been issued, secure a sportsman's firearm permit from the county treasurer. The sportsman's firearm permit shall be issued immediately and be valid throughout this Commonwealth for a period of five years from the date of issue for any legal firearm, when carried in conjunction with a valid hunting, furtaking or fishing license or permit relating to hunting dogs. The sportsman's firearm permit shall be in triplicate on a form to be furnished by the Pennsylvania State Police. The original permit shall be delivered to the person, and the first copy thereof, within seven days, shall be forwarded to the Commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police by the county treasurer. The second copy shall be retained by the county treasurer for a period of two years from the date of expiration. The county treasurer shall be entitled to collect a fee of not more than $6 for each such permit issued, which shall include the cost of any official form. The Pennsylvania State Police may recover from the county treasurer the cost of any such form, but may not charge more than $1 for each official permit form furnished to the county treasurer. Any person who sells or attempts to sell a sportsman's firearm permit for a fee in excess of that amount fixed under this subsection commits a summary offense. (d) Revocation of registration.--Any registration of a firearm under subsection (c) of this section may be revoked by the county treasurer who issued it, upon written notice to the holder thereof. If you don't have a LTCF permit - read it, learn it and obey the letter of the law or face the consequences if you are caught..... |
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