Thoughts on AimPoint Comp M2?

[Kaos]

I have a possibility of acquiring ones of these in trade, Im still getting specifics on it (condition, if mount is included) but I figured I'd ask your general opinions before I took this on.

I know that TonyF likes the aimpoints, and others like the eotech.

I like the eotech because they have a 1 moa dot and an integrated mount. The Aimpoints seem pretty well respected too, they run 4 moa though...but you can leave em on all the time and they wont time out and have better battery life.

Thoughts?

[phill]

We have used Aimpoint since their infancy and never have had a bad one. The Comp M2 seems to uphold the tradition. That said ours does not have enough time on it to really tell the whole story.

[MTechnik]

Some aimpoints have 2moa dots, some do 4moa... It all depends on what you're shooting. If you're dropping plates, it's fine. If you're shooting paper at 50 yards, a 4MOA dot will make it hard to see a 2" 'bullseye'. (It's why I'm going for the bushnell/eotech)

[Kaos]

Originally Posted by MTechnik

Some aimpoints have 2moa dots, some do 4moa... It all depends on what you're shooting. If you're dropping plates, it's fine. If you're shooting paper at 50 yards, a 4MOA dot will make it hard to see a 2" 'bullseye'. (It's why I'm going for the bushnell/eotech)

That's what I was thinking too, the smaller the dot the better if you ask me, I have good eyes.

[TonyF]

Originally Posted by Kaos

I have a possibility of acquiring ones of these in trade, Im still getting specifics on it (condition, if mount is included) but I figured I'd ask your general opinions before I took this on.

I know that TonyF likes the aimpoints, and others like the eotech.

I like the eotech because they have a 1 moa dot and an integrated mount. The Aimpoints seem pretty well respected too, they run 4 moa though...but you can leave em on all the time and they wont time out and have better battery life.

Thoughts?

The M2 series is actually "gen 2" but it's a perfectly serviceable model. I have one on my AK. IIRC, battery life is about 7000 hours at the middle setting.

The eotech integrated mount is sub-standard so I wouldn't view that as a positive.

[MTechnik]

Originally Posted by TonyF

The eotech integrated mount is sub-standard so I wouldn't view that as a positive.

Sorry to threadjack, but how is the eotech mount substandard?

[TonyF]

Originally Posted by MTechnik

Some aimpoints have 2moa dots, some do 4moa... It all depends on what you're shooting. If you're dropping plates, it's fine. If you're shooting paper at 50 yards, a 4MOA dot will make it hard to see a 2" 'bullseye'. (It's why I'm going for the bushnell/eotech)

Originally Posted by Kaos

That's what I was thinking too, the smaller the dot the better if you ask me, I have good eyes.

Here's a good tip. When you zero an aimpoint, even with a 4MOA dot, turn the brightness setting down to a very low setting. Same goes when engaging a small target at distance.

You have to understand that reflex sights are designed as a CQB tool. At that they excel. They "can" be used at distance but that is not their forte.

While the eotech circle / dot attempts to cover both bases, the optic itself still has many issues that some people such as myself find objectionable and others are willing to accept.

[TonyF]

Originally Posted by MTechnik

Sorry to threadjack, but how is the eotech mount substandard?

It is not robust. IOW it is weak which is why most people opt for a LaRue or the GG&G accu-cam.

Go here http://forum.pafoa.org/optics-46/394...ar-optics.html (Close range (less than 50 yards) AR optics?) and read post #29.

An excerpt: Eotech's only have 1 point of contact and several shot loose during the 1400+ rounds of the class.

I have actually seen them fall off of rifles in our classes.

[roland]

Well, I would vote for the eotech. Only because I have one and I really like it. The reason I got it was for IPSC shoots and occasional cmp practices.

The one thing I found about other redots, I'm not saying all because I don't the names of the ones I've shot, and I cetainly couldn't have shot all the different ones out there, Is this: they seam pretty bouncy. Wheather it's me twitching or just how I shoot, that little dot seams to bounce around in the viewing window alot, maybe I'm focusing on it too much, but I dont' notice it in eotech.

I thought the window size might be a factor in your decision. Eo's have a pretty big window. You may recall I cut the front sight tower off just to see more of the real estate in front of me. This may not be much of a factor if you always shoot with both eyes open. I ussually close my left eye when shooting at further targets.

I should specify, that the only holografic sight I shot on a rifle were eotechs. The others were on pistols. Might be an explaination for the jumpyness, or not, I don't know for sure.

To rebute some of the things said about eo's: Coming loose, I haven't had mine come loose. Although, just like scopes on my rifles, I check them after and sometimes during shooting, because recoil shakes things loose. I tighten other screws as well, it's part of shooting. Like retying your shoes, it's something you do, because you need to do it.
And as for it turning off, I usually turn it off when I'm not using it, like turning the lights out in a room in your house when your done in that room. I think the eos turn off after 4 hours, maybe 8 apparently how you turn it on. Well, I never had a reason to leave it on for 4 hours straight. I turn it off between stages, turn it off when I go down range to check/change targets. I think you see where I'm comin from.

[Kaos]

I'd feel a lot better if it was the 2 moa dot. I'll ask the guy.