M6X or crimson grips?

[Glock22xd9]

I hear the best weapon light with a laser is the insight M6X, anyone have a take on this vs. the crimson trace grip laser?

[CavScout88]

I have a set of Crimson trace grips on my Nighthawk. Dead on and generally cried as "unfair" at the range by my shooting buddies. Have not used the M6X.

[TonyF]

I don't know if the M6X is the best combo unit available but comparing the two are apples and oranges. The CT's don't require anything special in the way of a holster as would the weapon mounted light though a 1911 with an ambi safety requires relieving the starboard side paddle. The lasers do have some utility and in the CT format are unobtrusive.

[JustinM]

Originally Posted by Glock22xd9

I hear the best weapon light with a laser is the insight M6X

That's only if you want a high probability of your light falling off of your gun when you shoot it. Take a look at the Streamlight TLR series. although I see no need for a laser as some people tend to look for the laser and use it, instead of the sights on the handgun. The only time I would consider having a laser, isif I was a LEO, as lasers are wonderful deterrents.

[MiniDevil]

Originally Posted by jmateer

That's only if you want a high probability of your light falling off of your gun when you shoot it. Take a look at the Streamlight TLR series. although I see no need for a laser as some people tend to look for the laser and use it, instead of the sights on the handgun. The only time I would consider having a laser, isif I was a LEO, as lasers are wonderful deterrents.

I agree that I am not one for advocating a "Captain Laser" on firearms. It's just not my thing.

However, although lasers can be a 'deterrent', they can also give away your position just as sure as a flashlight or strobe light would. IMHO, if I was a LEO I would definately not get a laser.

[JustinM]

Originally Posted by MiniDevil

they can also give away your position just as sure as a flashlight or strobe light would. IMHO, if I was a LEO I would definately not get a laser.

Yes, they would, alot of people tend to shoot at the lights during lowlight FOF training, but what's worse, being able to illuminate your target and identify him/her, Or not being able to see your target at all? I have found having a weaponlight, and a handheld in your loadout is a great idea.



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[jdlv4_0]

I actually have to agree with the light/laser for LEO use and also for HD purposes.


In average cases when LEOs are on scene the BG allready knows they are there, and without the light mounted on the gun they'll use thier flashlight in the modified weaver stance, this has some advantages as you will basicly have a club, but the drawback is only having one hand one your gun, this may casue less support for the firing hand which could effect accuracy and retention.

As far as giving away your position, I think the LEOs that need to worry about that are the the guys SWAT/ERU guys, and even then after the doors are rammed in, the tear gas is speweing, the BG know's they're there.

In a HD situation, identifying your target is definately needed, you don't want to shoot the wrong person.

That and as soon as the BG gets the light on him, it will probably startle him, giving you a little bit more of an edge, and as noted above the red dot of death is a sobering tool to have on your side.

Personally, I would go with a combination of the Crimson Trace grips that can reamain on my pistol at all times (even in my standard IWB holster) and have a light that I can add/remove when needed.