Bangor incident shows problem with open carry

[DaveM55]

This article is full of fail, but it's what the general public are being fed by the drive-by media.

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/news/s...ry-837258.html

Mar 10, 2010 (Sun Journal - McClatchy-Tribune Information Services via COMTEX) --
Four heavily armed men walked into a Seattle Starbucks last Wednesday and ... what?

Robbed the place? Shot somebody?

No, they ordered beverages. Perhaps lattes with little swirls of whipped cream on top, although that's not specified in The Wall Street Journal story about the event, or incident, or whatever it was.

The men were trying to make a point, that more people should openly wear sidearms in public places. They are part of a movement called "open carry," and they argue that we'll all be safer when we all carry guns.

That's foolish, and here's a recent example why.

Bangor police last week arrested a 24-year-old man after his .357 Magnum accidentally discharged on a public transit bus, scaring the daylights out of the other passengers. The slug went through the side of the bus and, fortunately, injured no one.

Police said Jason Robinson was showing his gun to another passenger when it went off.

If "open carry" proponents are successful, this is the sort of thing we can expect.

That and children picking up dad's handgun off the coffee table.

And people shooting other people for small-time offenses, like stealing the hub caps off cars.

Or people hitting bystanders while firing at criminals.

Or people shooting at criminals then being shot by police who mistake them for criminals during gunfights.

Or people simply blowing their top and waving around handguns to express their anger.

Said one Starbucks barista last week: "The only thing worse than a yuppie upset with how their frappuccino turned out is a yuppie with a gun who's unhappy with how their frappucino turned out."

The list of things that can and will go wrong is far longer and more likely than the effective use of a handgun.

That's because 98 percent of these gun enthusiasts won't have a clue.

They will have no idea of the laws surrounding self-protection and deadly force. They will receive no formal training either in using their weapon or when to use it.

They will not regularly practice with that weapon to make sure they can actually hit what they are pointing at. And they most likely won't know how to maintain that weapon or take the time to do so.

In short, they will have the same fire power as police officers, but without any of the training, preparation and practice to handle an actual deadly force event.

We support the right to own and keep guns, and we even support the legal right to carry them in public when appropriate.

But we'll all be safer if men with guns leave them at home when they go out for a cup of coffee

[PocketProtector]

Typical liberal gobblygook, cherry picking an isolated incident and trying to make it the norm.
But they are learning the technique from the supreme leader Oz and friends, who uses the same tired, silly technique when it comes to hellthscare. Remember the hellthscare summit and the poor lady wearing her dead sister's dentures....LOL
But that Jason is an idiot too.

[Philbert]

Four heavily armed men walked into a Seattle Starbucks last Wednesday and ... what?

Robbed the place? Shot somebody?

No, they ordered beverages.

Bears repeating.

The men were trying to make a point, that more people should openly wear sidearms in public places. They are part of a movement called "open carry," and they argue that we'll all be safer when we all carry guns.

That's foolish, and here's a recent example why.

Yes yes if people carry it will be the end of the world. Hey, did you hear some people carried into Starbucks last week? Guess what they did?

Robbed the place?

Nope, try again.

Shot somebody?

Nope, try again.

they ordered beverages.

Bingo.

[DaveM55]

I did some searching around about Jason Robinson and it appears Robinson has a number of criminal convictions, mostly for theft and criminal mischief and violating conditions of his release, according to previous articles in the Bangor Daily News.

So in in my opinion this guy wasn't a law abiding citizen and a typical OCer. Looks the media will twist anything to fit thier agenda.

http://www.maineville.com/detail/138386.html

Looks like it also discharged as he was trying to conceal it.

http://www.wabi.tv/news/10450/invest...-bus-continues

[God's Country]

Lol! do cars even have hub caps anymore?

And people shooting other people for small-time offenses, like stealing the hub caps off cars.

For the record I believe this is only lawful if the perp is shot in the back.

[Tootie]

And why do these sheeple feel the need to project what they would do on all the other people. Sure they are afraid that they would shoot themselves or "pull it out" for nothing more then a bad cup of coffee but that doesn't mean I will. Sure they wouldn't get the training needed, but that doesn't mean I won't. They fear that they will not know how to handle something and then make it out that I don't. They need to get the help that is available to them over these fears.

[ViperGTS19801]

Originally Posted by DaveM55

But we'll all be safer if men with guns leave them at home when they go out for a cup of coffee

Right, so the nutcases with guns come in the only people that get shot are the innocent bystanders.

[rovert97]

this is written by the type a person that owns a car, but doesnt know how to maintain it, and then something goes wrong while they are driving and they blame the car company.

[jcabin]

The men were trying to make a point, that more people should openly wear sidearms in public places. They are part of a movement called "open carry," and they argue that we'll all be safer when we all carry guns.

That's foolish, and here's a recent example why.

Bangor police last week arrested a 24-year-old man after his .357 Magnum accidentally discharged on a public transit bus, scaring the daylights out of the other passengers. The slug went through the side of the bus and, fortunately, injured no one.

Police said Jason Robinson was showing his gun to another passenger when it went off.

If "open carry" proponents are successful, this is the sort of thing we can expect.

Sorry asshole, can one explain how this dip shit is a member of the open carry movement? Anyone as irresponsible as that shmuck who handles their gun in public is part of one movement: the flaming bleating asshole movement.

[rodder]

Police said Jason Robinson was showing his gun to another passenger when it went off.

If "open carry" proponents are successful, this is the sort of thing we can expect.

That and children picking up dad's handgun off the coffee table.

And people shooting other people for small-time offenses, like stealing the hub caps off cars.

Or people hitting bystanders while firing at criminals.

Or people shooting at criminals then being shot by police who mistake them for criminals during gunfights.

Or people simply blowing their top and waving around handguns to express their anger.

The list of things that can and will go wrong is far longer and more likely than the effective use of a handgun.

That's because 98 percent of these gun enthusiasts won't have a clue.

They will have no idea of the laws surrounding self-protection and deadly force. They will receive no formal training either in using their weapon or when to use it.

They will not regularly practice with that weapon to make sure they can actually hit what they are pointing at. And they most likely won't know how to maintain that weapon or take the time to do so.

In short, they will have the same fire power as police officers, but without any of the training, preparation and practice to handle an actual deadly force event.

holy crap. ASSume much?

The fact of the matter is that many LTCF holders are exponentially more competent than the average LEO in regards to firearms handling and knowledge. Studies also show the armed civilian to have an overall better hit ratio than the police in defensive shootings.

Why do people with the least amount of knowledge on a subject always act like they're the ones who know everything?

I guess that saying "the more you know, the more you know you don't know" applies here. These idiots know absolutely nothing about the subject they're writing about, which is why they don't even realize how far off their assumptions are. Why even write about an issue that you have absolutely zero knowledge about, much less an opinion column? How can you have an opinion on a subject you know nothing about? It just blows my mind that people that ignorant can be so sure of themselves.