LEO encounter at Home Depot in Allentown

[normanvin]

Originally Posted by PennsyPlinker

So there it is. I will be needing some stuff in the next few days, so I will be interested to see how it all works out. He didn't sound real happy, like maybe it was store policy, and he would follow it without liking it very much. I don't know. He did invite me to ask for him next time I was in the store if I wanted to speak with him some more about the issue.

We follow state law. Buy we don't know state law.

[PennsyPlinker]

Originally Posted by normanvin

We follow state law. Buy we don't know state law.

Well part of it is that Allentown is a Philly wannabe, passing their own ordinances. As TC noted in his OP, at least the cops understood preemption. But this might be the first time this guy has had to deal with it. He is probably more used to people trying to return paint they bought and didn't like.

[Ret-Fed]

You may want to ask the HD Manager if there will be a store policy for "911 calls for a man with a gun" (from within the store by an orange apron person) that will channel those calls through the office in the future.

[wingnut]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and the LEO was trying to help out, on his own time. His errors were probably more to do with training issues in the APD regarding search and Open and Concealed Carry than anything on his part. (I state hopefully)

I am wondering if TrueCrimson could swap a pamphlet drop in APD officer mailboxes in exchange for "forgetting" about what happened. Maybe this could become a learning experience for the APD so they don't let it happen again. A 10 minute refresher course on their part would work wonders in preventing future missteps. It would give them the "ammo" they need to respond to a "man with a gun" call.

/Wingnut
//Dad spent many years in Internal Affairs in the NYPD.
///IAD stories will make you wonder how we select our Law Enforcement Officers. (hint - not based upon IQ)
////When Citizens are given a police uniform, they are also given a new brain. This brain behaves very differently than the one they had before.

[Steve in PA]

The first officer (off-duty) is an idiot. He should never have done anything. If he was approached by Home Depot staff he should have told them to call 911 if they felt the need.

[Robert Kayland]

Originally Posted by Steve in PA

The first officer (off-duty) is an idiot. He should never have done anything. If he was approached by Home Depot staff he should have told them to call 911 if they felt the need.

I'd normally cut the LEO some slack, but for that very telling "I don't care what you consent to" remark.

This whole thing was just another incident of "pounding one's chest", as it were.

Hopefully he'll be less of a silverback next time.

[338winmag]

i don't think i would have put up with all of the bullshit demands. i think i would have pushed the issue with him. but thoughts are just my thoughts

[BlownNitroPontiac]

Originally Posted by HiredGoon

From the Allentown PD homepage (which has staff photos and contact info):
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[b]The mission of the Allentown Police Department is to preserve the public peace and order, to protect life and property and to enforce the laws of the United States, Pennsylvania and the City of Allentown.

To achieve this mission, we commit to these specific values:



* We encourage diversity among our department members and the community we serve.

I love this one.

As if the color of one's skin or the national origin of one's family makes a flippin' difference.

[BlownNitroPontiac]

Originally Posted by PennsyPlinker

He didn't sound real happy, like maybe it was store policy, and he would follow it without liking it very much.

Welcome to life.

If he disagrees in principle so greatly with corporate policy, will he be seeking employment elsewhere?

Not bloody likely.

[bradjc72]

perfect from your standpoint, and thanks for the headsup. I have used that HD, and will refrain to use it anymore. Anyway, whitehall got the new Lowes, and I have been going there recently anyway.