LEO encounter at Home Depot in Allentown

HbgHKFan · #**201** (**permalink**) March 6th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Zef_66

First off, welcome to the forum.

I understand you are new here, so I will let you know that this has been discussed many times before. There are tons of threads about OC and its pros and cons. I will let someone else find them for you.

But this thread is for discussing the event at Home Depot, not for discussing OC in general. The OP decided to do something completely legal and was harassed by the police. So before it gets too out of hand, I am going to ask:

Please keep discussions in this thread pertaining to this incident and OC vs CC discussions in appropriate threads.

No problem, no intention of getting off topic. I thought my comments were within relevance to the story presented, but I won't argue. I'll just leave it at that.

HbgHKFan · #**202** (**permalink**) March 6th, 2009

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Originally Posted by headcase

No tomatoes. If you don't feel the need, for whatever reason, to OC, then don't do it. The OP chose to OC, as is his right. For doing so, he was illegally detained, harassed, and was oppressed.

As far as being put on some kind of target list, IDK about that, but if it concerns you, then by all means do not make yourself a target of possible PD retaliation.

I always stress to people who want to OC, that they should be prepared for the possibilities. As your post proves, it is not for everyone. As for why bother? Well, some of us bother for the very simple reason that we should be able to do so without being bothered.

I understand what you're saying. Don't get me wrong, I fully support the law and OC. Just tried to present a different logical view to OC.

Pa. Patriot · #**203** (**permalink**) March 7th, 2009

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Originally Posted by HbgHKFan

... Just tried to present a different logical view to OC.

shooter357 · #**204** (**permalink**) March 7th, 2009

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Originally Posted by headcase

I wonder if they can ask for a mistrial based upon their attorney's incompetence? Last I checked, no county, or city of the first class, issued permits to carry concealed weapons.

So let me get this straight, their defense is going to be that, even in the face of caselaw to the contrary, because they feel OC is equivilent to terroristic threatening or disorderly conduct, their officer had every right to do what he did? Is that about right?

Hey TC, when this is over, remember who your true internet friends are...and that they may not have an AR they desperately need...

Did I take the interpretation right that because he was issued a "concealed carry permit" that he HAD to carry concealed? WOW, I never knew.

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By way of further answer, at the time of the initial contact with Plaintiff, it was not known whether he was a business invitee and/or was legally and/or lawfully upon the aforesaid premises.

Isn't that a presumption or are LEO's suppose to treat us(citizens) as criminals?

Falcon118 · #**205** (**permalink**) March 9th, 2009

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Originally Posted by shooter357

Did I take the interpretation right that because he was issued a "concealed carry permit" that he HAD to carry concealed? WOW, I never knew.

Isn't that a presumption or are LEO's suppose to treat us(citizens) as criminals?

Sure sounds like it to me

PCAviator · #**206** (**permalink**) April 4th, 2009

Has a date for any sort of court appearance regarding this incident been set yet?

zackattack784 · #**207** (**permalink**) September 7th, 2009

I'll give this thread a bump. Has anything else happened since the defendant's answer to the complaint? Being in the Atown area and shopping at that Home Depot on a semi-regular basis, I'm interested in how this case turns out.

Triegle · #**208** (**permalink**) September 7th, 2009

lol i used to work at the Home depot right off 422 in lebanon. Obviously i didnt work there bery long because that place is rediculous. Employees cant even keep their guns in their vehicle!!! that place is nothing but a bunch of bullshit! i commend you for taking your business elsewhere sir!

CHEMICAL · #**209** (**permalink**) September 7th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Triegle

lol i used to work at the Home depot right off 422 in lebanon. Obviously i didnt work there bery long because that place is rediculous. Employees cant even keep their guns in their vehicle!!! that place is nothing but a bunch of bullshit! i commend you for taking your business elsewhere sir!

i always found it funny when a company says you cant keep a gun in your car. if something happens to your car on their property they say they are not responsible because the car is your personal property, so if i leave my gun in my personal property its not their business, just like if they go break into your car, even if its on their lot, they are committing a crime. they simply cant have it both ways.

StealthBeast · #**210** (**permalink**) September 7th, 2009

I have trouble figuring out laws sometimes.. Sorry, as I'm sure this stuff has been addressed before, but it's hard as heck to find and this sounds like a great topic to ask it in. 2 questions:

Am I obligated to let a police officer disarm me? What situations REQUIRE that I allow him to disarm me and what situations am I allowed to say "No." What about an off-duty officer? What about non-firearms like knives/pepper spray?

Am I to understand that I do not need to give an officer my ID if I'm on foot?

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