MTN Jack ARRESTED for OC near Obama rally site!

[Ramtuff]

Originally Posted by joe15003

Well Police do this all the time. Such is the case with Child Predators. So what makes you think they wouldn't do thier research for the charges?

I do not agree with the charges they have given mtn jack. I do believe(If the article is correct) that the charges could have been Causing a castrophe.

And I'm sure they've been monitoring this website for a long time prior to this incident.

With all the "research" they've done here, you'd think they'd know that open carry is legal by now.

[joe15003]

Originally Posted by mjfletcher

100 Yards, an entire football field away, is far from "at the rally,"

Well, a bullet from a hand gun can travel this far.

[Pa. Patriot]

Originally Posted by sgt7546

I don't see why not, thats pretty much the nuts and bolts of the first 56 pages or so....

Yeah, nothing of interest or helpful in here. I'll just delete the thread.

So what do you have to contribute?

[joe15003]

How would this not fit what mtn jack may have done?

http://law.onecle.com/pennsylvania/c...3.002.000.html

§ 3302. Causing or risking catastrophe.
(a) Causing catastrophe.--A person who causes a catastrophe
by explosion, fire, flood, avalanche, collapse of building,
release of poison gas, radioactive material or other harmful or
destructive force or substance, or by any other means of causing
potentially widespread injury or damage, including selling,
dealing in or otherwise providing licenses or permits to
transport hazardous materials in violation of 75 Pa.C.S. Ch. 83
(relating to hazardous materials transportation), commits a
felony of the first degree if he does so intentionally or
knowingly, or a felony of the second degree if he does so
recklessly.
(b) Risking catastrophe.--A person is guilty of a felony of
the third degree if he recklessly creates a risk of catastrophe
in the employment of fire, explosives or other dangerous means
listed in subsection (a) of this section.
(Apr. 30, 2002, P.L.300, No.40, eff. 60 days)

[Brillfan]

Originally Posted by Ramtuff

And I'm sure they've been monitoring this website for a long time prior to this incident.

With all the "research" they've done here, you'd think they'd know that open carry is legal by now.

I wonder if PSP realizes that their credibility is dropping by the hour.

[joe15003]

Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot

More thoughts....

Fact:
People were congregating in Macintosh and Quay parks with political signs (on sticks).

Fact:
Those signs-on-sticks are not permitted in the rally (beyond the security checkpoint) They only allow paper/cardboard signs with no "sticks". WHY is that? Because the sticks are "weapons".

Conclusion:
So since jack was arrested for apparently simply possessing a "weapon", those weapons (sticks) possessed by the other people in the adjacent parks should have been grounds for arrest too.

But none of them were arrested.

Hmmm...THat is a very good point that I had not thought about.

[joe15003]

Originally Posted by pghplr

If being 100yrds of the event means your rights are suspended, it looks like the PSP could have stormed those residents in pink to ensure public saftey. So maybe we got off easy!

The secret service was in these building. I ate at the restautant on the corner there and they stated SS was and is in the building

[Jailkeeper]

Originally Posted by Ramtuff

With all the "research" they've done here, you'd think they'd know that open carry is legal by now.

It is my humble opinion that most of them DO know it's legal.

They just don't like it. At that point their personal opinion becomes more important to them than the law itself.

[Jailkeeper]

Originally Posted by joe15003

Well, a bullet from a hand gun can travel this far.

And we all know .22 LR boxes have a warning that the bullets can travel one mile. I do not see how this plays in to the picture at all.

Mtn Jack was NOT breaking any laws (according to the information presented here).

Of course any case that goes to trial is subject to the judge's interpretation of the law(s).

Mtn Jack was at a peaceful rally acting peacefully. He was NOT in a secure area. He invited us to accompany him but evidently nobody did.

I just do not see the logic of people saying Mtn Jack was wrong in his actions.

Next you will say that if Obama visits PA then we should not OC anywhere in the state that day.

1A, 2A... Remember?

[Ramtuff]

Originally Posted by Jailkeeper

It is my humble opinion that most of them DO know it's legal.

They just don't like it. At that point their personal opinion becomes more important to them than the law itself.

In a roundabout way, that was my point. Either these officers are incompetent, in which case they should be fired, or they knowingly broke the law, which should also lead to their firing (and prosecution).