MTN Jack ARRESTED for OC near Obama rally site!

[bdevil73]

Originally Posted by normanvin

Mtn Jack let us know if you need anything.

I have sent email to the reporter stating oc is legal in Pa.

Originally Posted by normanvin

I got a response from the aurthor.


-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Vidonic Bill" <BVidonic@timesonline.com>
> Hey Norman...
> Do you have a number for John? I'd like to talk to him this morning....
> Couple things...
> 1) I believe he WAS in a security zone, actually.
> 2) I am still trying to determine if he had a conceal-carry permit. If he does,
> he can't openly wear the gun like he did Friday.
>
> I appreciate the e-mails..thanks!
>
> Bill Vidonic

my response back

I have never met John. So I can not supply a phone number.

1.As far as I know he was on a public sidewalk.
2.There is no such thing as a concealed carry permit in pa. There is a license to carry firearms. yes he can carry a fire arm in the open like he was. Pa. is an open carry state. This means that you do not need this or any license to carry openly.

He just doesn't get it. I think we may have to send in the gorilla.

[P-11 shooter]

Originally Posted by gnbrotz

We will likely get alot of traffic from this incident, so it's important that any clear inaccuracies be corrected as soon as possible, so they do not spread. We want to be a source of awareness and support, not a vehicle for rumor and innuendo.

Ain't that the truth.

And as for some kind of OC rally. I'm totally in, just don't expect me to carry a bible. unless it's a satanic bible

[P-11 shooter]

Originally Posted by Shawn.L

I gotta say, you OC guys are really winning me over

(This is not sarcasm)

Did I read this right? I must be really tired because I swear Shawn L just said he is considering OCing.




Well, I guess if I had one of these i'd want to show it off too.

[BlownNitroPontiac]

Originally Posted by headcase

I sincerely wish that John Atkinson has a long, dragged out, excruciatingly painful, bout with stomach and colon cancer, and dies without pain medication.

That's an asinine thing to say.

Anybody who wishes that vile disease on somebody is truly a jerkoff.

My dearest friend, age 45, just lost a battle with acinic cell cancer last month.

[chrisjames_71]

Originally Posted by P-11 shooter

unless it's a satanic bible

He is a link (not gun related though and may already be posted here) ya'll may like, well @ least the obama anti's:
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/6524

[BlownNitroPontiac]

Originally Posted by jahwarrior72

i got shit from some feminazis for waving my ron paul sign at clinton, but that's besides the point..

Now THAT is funny.

[BlownNitroPontiac]

Originally Posted by s.vermeire

I think it is sad that our country which was founded by an act of treason and established with the firearms of the time has gotten to the point that people actually are scared at the mere mention of a gun. Sad and disturbing. We have millions of people who cannot think for themselves and they are deciding the people who determine the direction of our domestic and foreign policy.

Thank a Liberal.

[Qtrborecrazy]

I`ll just wait for all the evidence to come in before jumping the gun. Mtn Jack I hope everything works out well for you and your family.

[guyferg]

Article from today

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08243/908351-100.stm


Industry man contests arrest outside Obama rally
Saturday, August 30, 2008
By Milan Simonich, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
A Beaver County man who routinely wears a pistol on his hip says he was illegally arrested by local law officers before a rally for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

"I am a threat to no one. Mr. Obama doesn't trump my constitutional rights. The president of the United States doesn't trump my constitutional rights," said John Noble, who was handcuffed, questioned for about two hours and then told by state police that he would receive two citations for disorderly conduct.

Mr. Noble, 50, of Industry, said he wore a holstered Glock 19 when he entered the park across the street from the Beaver County Courthouse more than an hour before Mr. Obama arrived for a campaign appearance Friday night.

"I had a Bible in one hand and an apple in the other. I was going to pass out my fliers [on the rights of law-abiding Americans to carry guns], but I never got the chance."

State police in Beaver County referred questions about Mr. Noble's arrest to Trooper Shawn Schexnaildre, of New Castle, who was part of the law enforcement detail in the park. The trooper, who was to begin his shift later today, could not be reached immediately for comment.

Jim Gehr, agent in charge of the U.S. Secret Service field office in Pittsburgh, said the federal agency did not file any charges against Mr. Noble.

"Our people did talk to him. He never entered the event area," Agent Gehr said.

Mr. Noble said four or five law officers, plus a police dog, descended on him after somebody reported that he was wearing a pistol on his hip. He said they held him for 40 minutes in a Secret Service vehicle, then took him to the Beaver barracks of the state police for questioning. After being cuffed and shackled, he said, police eventually read him his rights. They also confiscated his pistol.

"Didn't even give me a receipt for it. There were lots of violations of my constitutional rights," Mr. Noble said,

After his arrest, his wife, Janet, handed out his fliers on citizens' rights to carry guns.

Mr. Noble said he had not decided whether to support Mr. Obama or Republican John McCain in the presidential election. He said he hoped Mr. Obama would call him to affirm the right of a law-abiding man to carry a pistol while a presidential contender visited.

Mr. Noble, a former body guard, said he used to carry his pistol in his clothing. But, he said, he has openly worn his handgun in a secure holster for the last four or five years. Nobody ever bothered him before, he said. He said he sometimes is asked why he carries a gun, and he explains that it is his constitutional right. In a practical sense, he said, he arms himself for protection.

He said he has a lawyer and may bring a lawsuit over his treatment by police.


First published on August 30, 2008 at 1:04 pm

[BlownNitroPontiac]

Originally Posted by Robert Kayland

Even though I myself do not OC under 'normal' circumstances, I'd be more than willing to participate in such a demonstration... and I bet many other gun-owning Pennsylvanians would too.

This is a profoundly good idea, Robert.

Forget the "open carry dinners."

Both candidates will be campaigning in Pennsylvania this Fall. Let's be sure to organize an "open carry campaign rally group" both for McCain AND against Barack Hussein Osama, each time they appear in PA.