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+1 Excellent post. Especially where you point out that it is OUR job to protect ourselves and each other.
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Indeed, an excellent post, one that any right-thinking person couldn't gainsay.

The only issue with OC'ing remains... how will you behave, to both the non-arms-bearing public and figures of authority when they, either rightly or wrongly, confront you about your OC'ing.

If you're educating said individuals at such opportunities and providing that "shining example" of a calm and sometimes long-suffering individual more truly concerned with the principles behind 2a and your often thankless role as protector of those who don't always understand or appreciate you, rather than concerned with your own ego, and able to resist the temptation of a defiant attitude that only drives otherwise neutral folks off the fence to start thinking about more restrictive gun control, then you are worthy of the rights you exercise, indeed.
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+1 rep sent, Excellent Post, Could not have said it better!!
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Indeed, an excellent post, one that any right-thinking person couldn't gainsay.

The only issue with OC'ing remains... how will you behave, to both the non-arms-bearing public and figures of authority when they, either rightly or wrongly, confront you about your OC'ing.

If you're educating said individuals at such opportunities and providing that "shining example" of a calm and sometimes long-suffering individual more truly concerned with the principles behind 2a and your often thankless role as protector of those who don't always understand or appreciate you, rather than concerned with your own ego, and able to resist the temptation of a defiant attitude that only drives otherwise neutral folks off the fence to start thinking about more restrictive gun control, then you are worthy of the rights you exercise, indeed.
And should he have a bad moment or not be a shining example, he is then unworthy of the rights he exercises?
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And should he have a bad moment or not be a shining example, he is then unworthy of the rights he exercises?
"Bad moments" while carrying a gun can have dire consequences for the OC'er... at best, bad PR for a cause which already fights an uphill battle in the minds of most citizens... at worst, well... no need to belabor the obvious.

Just say no to "bad moments" when OC'ing.

Consider Maryland and New York, and then be grateful for the rights we currently maintain. Something about "eternal vigilance", which includes looking inward as well as outward.
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I look at it this way, do as you feel, in the end the man laying on the ground with three holes in him isn't really going to care if you were carrying concealed or not.

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"Bad moments" while carrying a gun can have dire consequences for the OC'er... at best, bad PR for a cause which already fights an uphill battle in the minds of most citizens... at worst, well... no need to belabor the obvious.

Just say no to "bad moments" when OC'ing.

Consider Maryland and New York, and then be grateful for the rights we currently maintain. Something about "eternal vigilance", which includes looking inward as well as outward.
Actually, there is such a thing as minding one's own business. This simple act of common courtesy being ignored in favor of every jackass voicing their opinion of something that has no direct impact on them, should not, and in fact does not, require anyone to exercise "eternal vigilance" by being a constant source of smiles and information, or any kind of forced ambassador, just because they choose to live their lives anyway they see fit. I, and most others who OC, tend to bend over backward in an effort to maintain a positive image of OC'ers, but you don't get to tell us what we should or shouldn't be doing, because you don't.

If there is a cause that is fighting an uphill battle in the minds of most citizens, it isn't OC'ing a firearm. There are probably about as many citizens worried about OC as there are actually OC'ing. Just because you happen to be in the, "If you OC the sky is going to fall on me and my right to CC", camp(never mind that you, in fact, have no "right" to CC, as it is regulated everywhere in this Commonwealth, and OC is not, except for Philadelphia) should really not be a reason for you to project your phobia upon the masses. I am not grateful for rights we maintain. I am grateful that people have stood up, at the cost of life and limb, to secure those rights when they have been threatened. Consider the bravery and backbone those people displayed, and be grateful not one of them thought as you do.

Sheesh, somebody who spends his time biting his nails over how others actions are going to effect his lifestyle, judging whether or not people, who actually do attempt to preserve their rights on a daily basis, deserve them, is nauseating.
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I haven't seen any posts by jcabin I thought were arrogant or whatever, first saw him posting at XDtalk, and liked him right away. But then I am young yet ( 35), so maybe I still "think young".

I'd say I have seen alot of odd reactions to me on here though, but I figure it is a case of " Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus".
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