Pa. Patriot ARRESTED at the OC dinner @ The Old Country Buffet in Dickson City 5/9

[schr8er2000]

WELLLLLL.. I see some problems with the perception of the police. I WAS ( many many years ago ) a Sheriff Deputy. When called to assist another department we were told that it is 'THEIR TERRITORY"... we were only to assist if things got out of hand. We were not to make any decisions, make any arrests ( unless individually assaulted, etc ) and were only there to be part of the "show of force". I understand where you say this officer should have done this, and that officer should have done that, when obviously the DC LEO's did'nt know what they were doing... but that was NOT their function.

They were there simply to even out the odds. Two officers responding to a report of " group of armed men" will ALWAYS call for back-up.... HELL we would too....

Give those other officers the respect they deserve by "putting their lives on the line "against an UNKNOWN number of armed individuals.

Please do not think I am condoning the actions of the two DC LEO's.. I AM NOT.... just give the others a break. They were doing their job.

[larrymeyer]

Letter sent to the Mayor and Chief of police in Dickson City

Chief:

My name is Lawrence Meyer and I was one of the people who were illegally detained by your officers, Anthony Mariano and Karen Gallagher, removed us from the Old County Buffet in Dickson City on 5/9/2008.

I was embarrassed and humiliated to be treated like a common criminal when I had committed no crime other then having dinner with my friends and their families. Your officers were totally out of line people were looking at us like what did they do. Your officer refused to be video taped as they knew they were wrong. As a matter of fact your Officer Mariano stated he knew the law when I tried to give he a pamphlet which explains Open Carry is legal in PA. When we were removed from the vestibule of the restaurant and moved outside in the rain, about eight to ten other police cars showed up. Were they looking for a gun fight ?

Your Officers violated not only my civil rights but my honor as well. I had friends and family that died for my rights and those rights were trampled on Friday night by Anthony Mariano and Karen Gallagher Dickson City Police Officers.

[Bmaninmifco]

Originally Posted by gnbrotz

I'm on hold on Durgin.

Im listening to him now.

[PisnNapalm]

I'm listening now as well.

[CZ40P]

Originally Posted by GlockJock

I found this link to a political website in the Scranton, Dickson city area. It seems that they don't understand what happened and they are uninformed of the laws. I'm a new poster and still I am trying to understand all that happened that night. I would hope that one of the mods or more experienced posters could register and get these guys straightened out on the rights and laws for gun owners in the state.

Does this work for ya?

See what J. Kenworthy has to say
http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spa...picID=17341102

See how long it stays up!

[Bmaninmifco]

Originally Posted by CZ40P

Does this work for ya?

See what J. Kenworthy has to say
http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spa...picID=17341102

See how long it stays up!

Beautiful perfectly said

[steveforopen]

This Durgin guy is kinda a condescending prick

[PisnNapalm]

Posted in case it disappears from the Scranton forum.

My Dear Mr Pilchesky,
For all of your crusading for the rights of the little guy against the machine, you are terribly ignorant of the constitution. The first ammendment gaurantees your right to say what you wish on this website.
The second ammendment gaurantees the first. If it wern't for the second ammendment we would all be servants of our increasing corrupt government.

The second ammendment has been under attack in this country for the last 40 years. Haven't you ever wondered why the democratic (socialists) have been so vehement in their attacks. The millions of dollars that are funneled into phoney anti-gun oranizations like The Million Mom March, or the Brady Campaign who are just fronts for left wing socialists like George Soros.
The nanny state beckons. Which socialist would you prefer. It looks like the media has chosen Barack Hussein Obama as the annointed one.

What will happen if this government turns oppressive? What if censorship is ordered? How will you react? That sir is the purpose and the meaning of the Second Ammendment. It has nothing to do with hunting! It has nothing to do with target shooting.
We Americans are imbued with a God given right to self defense and liberty.The second ammendments gives us as free people the tools to preseve that liberty.

Thomas Jefferson said it best:

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."

In other words, an armed populace keeps goverment honest. Some in government seek to remove this right, so their will and not the peoples will endure.
Since the mid sixties I have watched as gun owners has be ridiculed, type cast, and marginalized by the mainsteam media.
I am sure it was born out of the self righteous indignation of the anti-war movement in the late sixties and early seventies. Academia and the press have hammered this propaganda home for the last 40 years.

This is Pennsylvania, not New Jersey. More people (500,000) have a license to carry a firearm in PA than almost all other states Firearms owners are not a minority in PA. Why do you think Bob Casey is against gun control?
Because he couldn't have been elected otherwise

In Pennsylavnia our rights are also protected by the state constitution:
"The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." - Pennsylvania Constitution, Article 1, Section 21

By case law:

Commonwealth v. Hawkins, 692 A.2d 1068, n.4 (1996) "In all parts of Pennsylvania, persons who are licensed may carry concealed firearms. 18 Pa.C.S. § 6108. Except in Philadelphia, firearms may be carried openly without a license.

Ortiz v. Commonwealth, ___ Pa. ___, ___, 681 A.2d 152, 155 (1996) (only in Philadelphia must a person obtain a license for carrying a firearm whether it is unconcealed or concealed; in other parts of the Commonwealth, unconcealed firearms do not require a license)"

The facts in this case are clear. A group of people who are members of an internet forum "www.pafoa.org" were having a get together at the OLd Country Buffet.. Some where openly carrying a firearm. Openly carryng a firearm is LEGAL in PA. One only needs a license to carry openly in Philadelphia. At the behest of a caller, the Dickson City Police department showed up and tried to bully and bull**** the PAFOA members. When the police were told that no law had been broken, a gentlemen who expessed his views was arrested on a bogus charge. He was later released when it was discovered the PD could in fact charge hime with nothing. They did however confiscate his gun illegally because it was not in a PA State Police database. There is no gun registration in PA , only a sales record of certain guns sold.

The Dickson City and Scranton PD both responded and blew the situation way out of proportion. This was a case of the police acting like jack booted thugs against people who stood their ground.

For you to smugly characterize gun owners as immature and stupid, smacks of the same arrogant elitist attitude as Chris Doherty and the politcal hacks you rail against.

Maybe you have been reading too much of your own press.

Now you can all sit around and sing "Kumbaya"

[unloved]

Where can I hear this Durgin person of which you speak?

[Bmaninmifco]

go to whp580.com and click on listen live