Pa. Patriot ARRESTED at the OC dinner @ The Old Country Buffet in Dickson City 5/9

[Bmaninmifco]

Originally Posted by Tootie

I would like to send my support to Pa. Patriot and all involved. What needs to be done is the re-education of the PA police departments state and local on the legal right of it's citizens to OC. Hopefully this will be the outcome of this incident.

As for the tread going on the scranton site why not just post the law as it is writen.

FACTS ABOUT OPEN CARRY
Yes, open carry IS legal in Pennsylvania.
In Pennsylvania, persons who are not prohibited by law from owning firearms may openly carry a handgun in plain sight with no license except in vehicles, cities of the first class (Philadelphia), and where prohibited specifically by statute. Ref: 18 PACS §6106, §6107, §6108
There are also two cases that specifically state that a person may carry a firearm openly:
Commonwealth v. Ortiz: www.tinyurl.com/2wtovz
Commonwealth v. Hawkins: www.tinyurl.com/346wwr

Open carry (handgun) in a vehicle requires a valid PA LTCF or a carry license from ANY other state.

Open carry in Philadelphia requires a valid PA LTCF or a reciprocal state’s carry license.

You do not need to be a resident of PA to open carry

Cities, towns, and municipalities are prohibited by PA law from enacting laws prohibiting concealed or open carry. Ref: 18 PACS §6120

There is no stipulation in law that a PA LTCF holder must carry concealed. Furthermore, lawful open carry of a firearm is NOT grounds for revocation of a PA LTCF.

Brandishing & Disturbing the Peace: There is no “brandishing” or “disturbing the peace” law in PA. A person who shows or indicates that they have a gun with the intent to intimidate another person can be charged with various forms of assault, including Terroristic Threats. Mere open carry of a handgun, lacking any other threatening behavior or verbal threat, is not assault.

Disorderly Conduct & Terroristic Threats: Open carry, in a holster, lacking any other threatening behavior by the person carrying, does not meet the statutory conditions of Disorderly Conduct or Terroristic Threats since open carry is a legitimate exercise of a Pennsylvanian's rights, such conduct is not by itself threatening, nor does it cause a hazardous or physically offensive condition that serves no legitimate purpose of the actor.

LTCF: License To Carry Firearm

perfect no fuss no muss

[Jerry H]

Holy crap, I'm out of the loop for a couple days and come back to this bunch of BS I will be contacting my Teamster brothers at local 107 in Philadelphia and see if they can get something going with our brothers in Scranton. Our voices will be heard. You go MR. and Mrs Pa. Patriot

[pghplr]

Did the Dickson City home page fall off the face of the Earth or what? I tried too find it again and can't. I tried to get on the Dickson Police site and...well...are they hiding under a rock? Did they have a meeting of the minds and decided to pack up and leave? Maybe it's just down for updating. Does someone have a link just in case I was looking at the wrong sites? Thanks.

[lildobe]

Originally Posted by Tootie

As for the tread going on the scranton site why not just post the law as it is writen.

I'm sure that as soon as one of us is approved to join the site, we will post just that. The facts of the law are all that is needed, not any opinions on WHY OC is a good or bad idea beyond the standard line about how criminals do NOT OC.

[TaePo]

Originally Posted by GunLawyer001

If "Officer Gallagher" is the same police officer "Karen Gallagher" who is the plaintiff in the case linked to below, then she should be familiar with Section 1983 actions, with individuals having their rights violated by Dickson City officials, and she really should have known better than to trample the rights of the folks involved at the diner.

This link opens as a PDF file, so you need the standard Adobe reader.

http://www.websupp.com/data/MDPA/3:0...26-22-MDPA.pdf

Here's another article, about the 6 lawsuits settled by that Borough, "Karen Gallagher" settled for $139,000, which will perhaps come in handy when she's sued over the diner incident:

Here's minutes from the Dickson Borough Council meeting, where they re-hired a bunch of part-timers:

http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/site...d=416046&rfi=6


Motion # 8 by Mr. West Seconded by Mr. Fedorka to Re-hire the following part time Police Officers.
For the Borough for the year 2008.
David Edwards
John Sobieski
Scott Gretzula
Anthony Mariano
Jaren Ganz
Karen Gallagher
Jason Oakey
Paul Nardozzi
Frank Rapoch
Christopher Brazen
Christopher Tully
Brian Munley
Christopher Granza
Edward Frescoln
Douglas Smith`
Jonathan Davitt

I was going to joke that the want ads for Dickson City police officers had a misprint,

Instead of ...uniformed police officers wanted.
It said ...uninformed police officers wanted.

Just to add some levity, mind you.

But reading these links by Gunlawyer, it would seem that the department there is really screwed up internally. (For whatever reasons)

This would open up the department for low morale etc. which leads to bad decisions and policework. There is a tumor there that needs to be removed.

And it is funny how the officers are very concerned about their rights. What about the average citizen's rights??

PA Patriot, I am, like so many others, behind you 100% and will be following this closely.

[headcase]

I would venture a guess that the Dickson city website crashed.......

[schr8er2000]

From what I have read of the internal STRIFE in that department the city council might want to consider eliminating the Police Department AND DA staff as it is and start all over.. with a Chief that KNOWS the laws, INFORMED officers, and a DA ( and staff) that READ the Constitution of Pennsylvania. MAYBE then the CORRECT responses will be made on calls....

Nah.. aint gonna happen.......

[Buckmark.35]

Did anyone get approved for the scranton forum? It might be the lamest forum I've ever had the pleasure of encountering, so it's not suprising that uninformed anti losers are posting there.

[Buckmark.35]

Originally Posted by schr8er2000

Nah.. aint gonna happen.......

ROFL. Something sensible and obvious probably doesn't align with political objectives. They'll definitely try to sweep this under the rug. That's why we gotta blow it up.

[PisnNapalm]

The Dickson City Borough website has been taken down. There is only a blank holder page now.

http://www.dicksoncityborough.org/

My guess would be that they've been overwhelmed with emails and web hits. So much so that they've chosen to take it down and hide.

Good work everyone!

On a side note... There are currently 83 people viewing this thread. 34 members and 49 guests. It's gonna set records here.... maybe even surpass Greg's revocation thread. Keep spreading the word!

EDIT:: I went into Google to view cached pages for the website... They have taken down the http://www.dicksoncityborough.org/ domain completely.