Pa. Patriot ARRESTED at the OC dinner @ The Old Country Buffet in Dickson City 5/9

[PeteG]

Originally Posted by ThomasJ

Yes, preposterous. The statement was built on an unprovable, fallacious premise. And no one is forced to resort to litigation; it's a choice. Therefore, yes, it is even avoidable. You display equally poor logic as the other guy, part of it being circular reasoning: "I think litigation is bad; therefore, a law suit is bad."

Where did I call anyone a name and what did I call them? Any other distortions and misrepresentations you'd like to throw out there?

"Unprovable and fallcious" says the man who knows as much about litigation as he does about flying a space ship.

"Preposterous" and "silly" are names. You called me those things.

Circular logic ... ????

I now, as they say, rest my case.

I leave you to those who are willing to put up with you.

[DaveM55]

Originally Posted by ThomasJ

Nice try, but it still doesn't fly. In order:

Why do you want to keep arguing the minor details of my posts when the main point has been explained several times. ie the gloating and mob mentality.

Let's discuss that.


I think you just want to antagonize. I'm too am not willing to put up with your antics.

[Pa. Patriot]

ThomasJ ~ TonyF

Enough.

ThomasJ. Fix your post in regards to WHO you are quoting. Misquoting is a rules violation. If you want to use the quote to make a point to Tony - fine. But you MUST quote accurately including crediting the quote with the proper person.

[ThomasJ]

Originally Posted by PeteG

"Unprovable and fallcious" says the man who knows as much about litigation as he does about flying a space ship.

"Preposterous" and "silly" are names. You called me those things.

Preposterous is not a name or a noun; it's an adjective, and was used to describe your reasoning.

Here is your fallacy:

"People with lots of experience, and the scars to prove it, are virtually unanimous in their opinion that even a good law suit is a bad thing to have."

Please prove this statement.

[DaveM55]

Originally Posted by Statkowski

I did, on Friday, July 4, 2008. Here's my letter:



And there was just another incident in Catasqua, Pa. just the other day!

Write those letters! I'd offer to send you a postage stamp if you really need one, but it'd cost me a postage stamp just to send you a postage stamp.

Well done Mr Statkowski. +100

Did you get a reply?

I might also suggest sending that to the Commision members. Or setting up a face to face with the commision members. They also have quarterly meeting you can attend.

http://www.mpoetc.state.pa.us/mpotrs/cwp/view.asp?a=1133&q=440296&mpotrsNav=|

Grubesky, Rudy M. rgrubesky@state.pa.us (717) 346-7755
Director, Training Quality Control, Curriculum and Unit Test Bank Development, Advanced Instructor Development Program

Shaw, Kimberly L. kishaw@state.pa.us (717) 346-7758
Mandatory In-Service, School Inspections, Basic Curriculum, Instructor Training, Administrative Investigations

Ebersole, Timothy R. tiebersole@state.pa.us (717) 346-7756
Basic Curriculum, Mandatory In-Service, Instructor Training, School Inspections, Physical Fitness Standards

Kaiser, William T. wkaiser@state.pa.us (717) 346-7757
Mandatory In-Service, School Inspections, Basic Curriculum, Instructor Training and Evaluation , Firearms

Leahy, Terrence P. tleahy@state.pa.us (717) 346-7759
Basic Curriculum, Mandatory In-Service, Instructor Training, School Audits and Inspections

[Statkowski]

Did you get a reply?

Hah! Hasn't even been a month yet. No, I'll not hold my breath, but I will send same to the MPOETC Commissioners also.

[DaveM55]

Originally Posted by Statkowski

Hah! Hasn't even been a month yet. No, I'll not hold my breath, but I will send same to the MPOETC Commissioners also.

FYI, Colonel Jeffrey B. Miller is on his way out of the PSP to take over security for the NFL.

http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-...0,171308.story

[DaveM55]

Originally Posted by Statkowski

Hah! Hasn't even been a month yet. No, I'll not hold my breath, but I will send same to the MPOETC Commissioners also.

I'd be interested in any response.

The June 2008 meeting was held in Pittsburgh. I don't know where the next one will be.

[normanvin]

Originally Posted by DaveM55

How many OC activists (and I say that with respect) have contacted MPOETC?

That is the organization responsible for certifying the training of municipal police officers throughout the commonwealth.

This avenue would be a lot less risky for all parties and a much more efficient and effective way of training police about OC.

http://www.mpoetc.state.pa.us/mpotrs/site/default.asp

Sent one this morning to.
Director of Training
Rudy M. Grubesky
rgrubesky@state.pa.us

I had sent a letter to Kanjorski, a while ago. I didn't expect anything from him. Just wanted to bitch at some one. Got the following back this morning.


Thank you for informing me of your support for those who openly carry firearms in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. I appreciated hearing from you on this important issue.

As you know, local media outlets have recently reported on an incident on May 9, 2008, in which several individuals were legally carrying firearms, both openly and concealed, in an Old Country Buffet in Dickson City, Pennsylvania. Local police officers were called to the scene to investigate and subsequently confiscated one individual’s firearm. As a result, several of these individuals have filed a federal lawsuit against the Borough of Dickson City for civil rights violations.

During the 110th Congress, we may have the opportunity to consider legislation pertaining to openly carrying a legal firearm. In that event, you can rest assured that I will keep your thoughts in mind and take actions as appropriate. Throughout the many debates we have each year on gun control legislation, my goal has been to preserve our Second Amendment rights while keeping firearms out of the hands of criminals.

Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. Please feel free to contact me again about any issue of interest or concern to you.


Sincerely,

Paul E. Kanjorski
Member of Congress

[headcase]

Originally Posted by normanvin

Sent one this morning to.
Director of Training
Rudy M. Grubesky
rgrubesky@state.pa.us

I had sent a letter to Kanjorski, a while ago. I didn't expect anything from him. Just wanted to bitch at some one. Got the following back this morning.


Thank you for informing me of your support for those who openly carry firearms in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. I appreciated hearing from you on this important issue.

As you know, local media outlets have recently reported on an incident on May 9, 2008, in which several individuals were legally carrying firearms, both openly and concealed, in an Old Country Buffet in Dickson City, Pennsylvania. Local police officers were called to the scene to investigate and subsequently confiscated one individual’s firearm. As a result, several of these individuals have filed a federal lawsuit against the Borough of Dickson City for civil rights violations.

During the 110th Congress, we may have the opportunity to consider legislation pertaining to openly carrying a legal firearm. In that event, you can rest assured that I will keep your thoughts in mind and take actions as appropriate. Throughout the many debates we have each year on gun control legislation, my goal has been to preserve our Second Amendment rights while keeping firearms out of the hands of criminals.

Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. Please feel free to contact me again about any issue of interest or concern to you.


Sincerely,

Paul E. Kanjorski
Member of Congress

He is my Rep. as well. I receive response letters from him on an almost daily basis, although this is the first I've heard of a possibility of legislating OC. In the last one, he reaffirms his pro 2A stance and says he voted against the AWB and will do so again, if it gets out of committee. I might actually get a birthday card from him this year from being on his radar so often, lol.