Pa. Patriot ARRESTED at the OC dinner @ The Old Country Buffet in Dickson City 5/9

[Lysander]

Originally Posted by DaveM55

Sounds more like they are working within the system to prepare thier case...remember innocent until proven guilty?

Probably - and not applicable. This is a civil trial; guilt or innocence as guilt or innocence does not play a significant role. To turn it around - the O.J. civil trial said, basically "for these facts and circumstances" Defendant owes Plaintiff money. Guilt, in a criminal trial sense, can result in jail time (or fines, for those misdemeanors and other statutory offenses that don't have jail sentences involved.).

I don't know if they still allow the practice, but it was the case in England you could hire your own lawyer (barrister) to prosecute crimes committed against you - a true private prosecution.

[normanvin]

Originally Posted by DaveM55

Sorry normanvin I wasn't trying to single you out, please accept my apology. It's just the trend of this thread has such a blood lust mood to it.

No problem. ........

[DaveM55]

Originally Posted by Lysander

Probably - and not applicable. This is a civil trial; guilt or innocence as guilt or innocence does not play a significant role. To turn it around - the O.J. civil trial said, basically "for these facts and circumstances" Defendant owes Plaintiff money. Guilt, in a criminal trial sense, can result in jail time (or fines, for those misdemeanors and other statutory offenses that don't have jail sentences involved.).

I don't know if they still allow the practice, but it was the case in England you could hire your own lawyer (barrister) to prosecute crimes committed against you - a true private prosecution.

Interesting, I guess I really don't understand civil law very well. So what types of verdicts are reached in civil court if not guilty or innocent?

[PennsyPlinker]

Originally Posted by pghplr

He punched her in the face, she then stabbed him with a meat fork. Sounds like justice was served...well done! Theres a pun there!

Actually, the better pun would be, justice was meted out! But justice was served is a good one too. Rep on the way.

[Damage control]

Originally Posted by PennsyPlinker

Actually, the better pun would be, justice was meted out! But justice was served is a good one too. Rep on the way.

Yeah. That is a big fork!


DC

[larrymeyer]

Originally Posted by lildobe

Ok... just what the HECK is a "meat fork"

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As opposed to a Veggie Fork?

I think its one of those long forks used when you grill meat on a BBQ grill. Not sure though as I'm am not a Chef

[headcase]

Originally Posted by DaveM55

You missed a couple bites of food and you want to ruin the lives and careers of someone else? Sounds a little JBTish to me. Do you think destroying these peoples lives will be a positive thing?

Yes it's your right to proceed with the case, but in my opinion you're no better than the cops who mistreated you.

As un-hotheaded as is possible, I post this. The private citizens involved in this incident did not just miss a couple of bites of food, Dave. They were pulled from living their lives, and stood up against a wall, in the rain, in full view of their families and anyone else who happened by, and they were subjected to harassment, searches, theft of their property, detainment, and even arrest, all unlawfully by people sworn to uphold the law. These so called law enforcement officers did so knowingly, with forethought and malice. If I were running things, they would be drawn, have their skin peeled off, and then quartered, in full public view, as a deterrent to the next oath breaker hired to serve the public. Whatever the results of these legal actions turn out to be, their being brought before a court is deserved. You have the right to your view, but in my opinion, you are no better than the cops who mistreated them, for posting this.

[Elmar]

Thats a bit harsh for employees. I would accept it as punishment for elected or appointed officials though. Employees should simply pay restitution if possible. Although police do take an oath to uphold the law so I might expand it to any public servant who takes an oath.

[chesire17201]

Originally Posted by larrymeyer

I think its one of those long forks used when you grill meat on a BBQ grill. Not sure though as I'm am not a Chef

oww.......looks painful.......

http://www.wusthof.com/EN/database3....%20meat%20fork

[PennsyPlinker]

Originally Posted by DaveM55

Sounds more like they are working within the system to prepare thier case...remember innocent until proven guilty?

What's with all the gloating over this?

Too many posts here that seem to enjoy this. This situation is not good for either party and I have empathy for ALL involved.

I doubt the empathy Dave. You have a fairly well marked trail on a couple of forums of being against open carry. And this situation is very good for the citizens of the Commonwealth if it results in a little less overbearing illegal treatment by thugs in blue uniforms. And while the parties involved may be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, that does not mean the people who were there can't see what really happened. All it means is that it has not been adjudicated yet.

Originally Posted by DaveM55

You missed a couple bites of food and you want to ruin the lives and careers of someone else? Sounds a little JBTish to me. Do you think destroying these peoples lives will be a positive thing?

Yes it's your right to proceed with the case, but in my opinion you're no better than the cops who mistreated you.

Your last sentence in this quote negates any truth to your proclaimed "empathy" in your previous quote. And as Headcase has already ably pointed out, if you think this is about a few bites of food, then perhaps you need to find other employment yourself. Cops who think this way are a real problem for the rest of society, even when they are only part time reserve deputies.