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Originally Posted by Jon Doe
Hey everyone. I just moved to this county from another state 2 weeks ago. I went to get my initial LTCF at the county court house the same day I got my new temporary PA license from PennDOT. I had everything I needed in terms of ID that the sheriff's forms said. When the woman at the desk saw my drivers license she asked how long I've been at my current address. Thinking it was no big deal I told her 2 weeks. She immediately said I have to wait 90 days and gave me back my LTCF application.
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There is no such restriction in the statute that requires you to be at your current address for even 90 seconds.
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Originally Posted by Jon Doe
When I told her nothing on the forms I printed out from the Northampton county website mentioned that, she said it was in the 18 Pa.C.S. Chapter 61 statute. She had a little book with that in it. Another gentleman behind the Sheriff's office counter came by and said they had just pulled down the forms on their bulletin board that expressly said that. I responded that I had researched this extensively and saw nothing about that.
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That's because the only relevant section is 18 Pa C.S. § 6109: Licenses.
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Originally Posted by Jon Doe
After POLITELY asking to see a paper or flyer that mentioned this law they then said a Sheriff's officer who knows where in the statute the 90 day residency requirement is mentioned would come to the desk and point it out. He shows up and tells me he is not going to show me. He also says it is not their job to do that, that I should just believe and listen to the desk staff because they know more about this than I think I do. I was a little put off. He was being confrontational when I was not raising my voice or being disrespectful in any way. To end this long story he gave me a flyer telling me to look up the 18 Pa.C.S. Chapter 61 statute. He also patronized me, telling me it is 72000 words of fine print with legal interpretation involved. Well I did look it up and found nothing about a 90 day waiting period for new residents. Remember I had everything they asked for, Voter Registration, PA drivers license, Proofs of Residency. The officer told me to sit tight and wait. I prefer not to. What should I do?
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...because there is no such restriction. My suggestion is that you go back, in the same manner, and not tell them how long you've been there. I also suggest that you not take anything except what is required by statute, and leave your voter card, driver's license and "proofs of residency"
at home. Hard to leave your DL at home if you're driving there... so take that with you. The rest, well, isn't necessary.
If they refuse to process your application, make them sign something to that effect, and ask to speak to the sheriff or his chief deputy.
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Originally Posted by Jon Doe
Can I apply in another nearby county like Lehigh, Pike, or Monroe? Should I apply for a UTAH Non Resident CCW since that would be honored here in PA? Any suggestions are very much appreciated. Thank you.
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You can only apply in the county you live in, unfortunately. Northampton's sheriff has a habit of doing things illegally, and only until his foot is held to the fire or he's removed from office can we get things to change.
I suggest you get your Utah or Arizona regardless of your PA situation, although I believe that they need copies of your home state license/permit.
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