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Old February 12th, 2007
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what does it take to get a class3 license? do you have to sell a certain amount of items per yea, cost per year, ect...
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If you mean a class 3 dealer, as in an FFL who deals in NFA items you would need:
  1. To be an FFL (Federal Firearms Licensee)
  2. To Pay your yearly SOT (Special Occupational Tax)
  3. Be running a legitimate business
  4. Not be doing this for the sole purpose of buying toys to play with
If you meet all those criteria, then the rest is just minor details.
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There's no requirement for the number of items you sell. My dealer does it on the side. But as said you can't just get it for the sole fact of collecting.
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But as said you can't just get it for the sole fact of collecting.
Why not? What if I won the Powerball next week, and decided to become an FFL and buy all kinds of guns just to keep for myself?
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Why not? What if I won the Powerball next week, and decided to become an FFL and buy all kinds of guns just to keep for myself?
Because that is not what an FFL is for. An FFL is to be in the business of selling firearms. The ATF has cracked down on that pretty hard in the last decade or so.
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It's all arbitrary though. My FFL also has a SOT. He said he sells a gun or two a month. Doesn't have a store front and really only does his business by referral.

Same thing with possessing F/A parts that came with your parts kit

Same thing with selling guns with your C&R


All about whose balls they want to bust. I've been reading in MI if you get a CR the local BATFE agents come talk to you and sometimes ask to visit your house. BATFE seems strange depending on the state.
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It's all arbitrary though. My FFL also has a SOT. He said he sells a gun or two a month. Doesn't have a store front and really only does his business by referral.

Same thing with possessing F/A parts that came with your parts kit

Same thing with selling guns with your C&R


All about whose balls they want to bust. I've been reading in MI if you get a CR the local BATFE agents come talk to you and sometimes ask to visit your house. BATFE seems strange depending on the state.
you lost me on the sot.. i owne about six nfa items but seldom hear about sot. can you explain...
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you lost me on the sot.. i owne about six nfa items but seldom hear about sot. can you explain...
SOT = Special Occupational Tax. If an FFL pays it they can now deal in NFA items. If a manufacturer pays it they can manufacture NFA items.

It is not required for personal purchasing of said items, it is required for being in the business of dealing in such items.
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SOT = Special Occupational Tax. If an FFL pays it they can now deal in NFA items. If a manufacturer pays it they can manufacture NFA items.

It is not required for personal purchasing of said items, it is required for being in the business of dealing in such items.
is there a set cost per year on it? or is it based on what you sell/manufacture
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http://www.quarterbore.com/nfa/class3.htm

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A Class 3 SOT dealer is a dealer of NFA firearms
A Class 2 SOT manufacturer is a manufacturer of NFA firearms
A Class 1 SOT importer is an importer of NFA firearms

Type 1 FFL is a Title 1 dealer or gunsmith
Type 2 FFL is a Title 1 dealer doing business as a pawnbroker
Type 3 FFL is a licensed collector of Curio & Relic (C&R) firearms
Type 6 FFL is a licensed maker of ammunition and reloading components other than Armor Piercing ammunition
Type 7 FFL is a Title 1 manufacturer of firearms, ammunition and ammunition components other than NFA, Destructive Devices and Armor Piercing ammunition
Type 8 FFL is an importer of Title 1 firearms and ammunition
Type 9 FFL is a dealer in Title 1 firearms including NFA destructive devices, but no other NFA
Type 10 FFL is a manufacturer of Title 1 firearms, ammunition and ammunition components, including NFA Destructive Devices but no other NFA, and not including Armor Piercing ammunition
Type 11 FFL is an importer of Title 1 firearms, ammunition and NFA Destructive Devices, but no other NFA

To get a Class 3 SOT status, you need a dealer or manufacturer FFL which includes Type 1, 2, 7, 8, 9, 10 or 11 - and pay a yearly $500 tax due every July 1st.
To get a Class 2 SOT status, you need a manufacturer FFL, which includes Type 7, 10 - and pay a yearly $1000 or $500 (reduced rate for small manufacturers) tax due every July 1st.

To get a Class 1 SOT status, you need an importer FFL, which includes Type 8, 11- and pay a yearly $1000 or $500 (reduced rate for small importers) tax due every July 1st.
Thats summary of everything. It's 2 years old, but I don't think anything has changed.
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