SBR or Permanently attached suppressor

[chrisazo1]

My end goal was thought to be a 11.5" ar with a suppressor. After some discussion and research I have learned that I could permanently attached a suppressor and so long as barrel length is at or over 16", I would only need a stamp for the suppressor instead of a stamp for the sbr and a stamp for the suppressor. less hassle and obviously less cost. Any thoughts? I also heard that a suppressor on a Commando upper is not really that effective and may be a waste of time and money...

[bac0nfat]

Yes you can do that but there will be some downfalls. Obviously you won't be able to use the suppressor on multiple hosts. Also, you would loose the ability to break down the gun into small pieces that could fit into a small case such as a briefcase. You'll loose the ability to use multiple muzzle devices on the gun. And for the price you'll pay a good gunsmith to have it permanently attached, you're already on your way to paying for the tax stamp.

Honestly I'd just put out the extra $200 and do it right. Put in both forms at the same time and you'll likely have them approved at the same time anyway.

ETA: If the suppressor has a removable end cap, make sure you leave room for that, so it's still over 16" with the end cap removed.

[chrisazo1]

Great point on the gunsmithing charge vs. the additional stamp. Can I send 2 copies of Form 1, 2 copies of Form 4, one copy of 5330.20 and 2 fingerprint cards all together to the same address with 2 two separate money orders?

[jachrist]

I dont think so. It's the govt. Nothing easy.

Plus, dont thise forms go to two separate addresses (one for suppressors and one for sbr's)???

[bac0nfat]

Originally Posted by chrisazo1

Great point on the gunsmithing charge vs. the additional stamp. Can I send 2 copies of Form 1, 2 copies of Form 4, one copy of 5330.20 and 2 fingerprint cards all together to the same address with 2 two separate money orders?

Honestly I don't know if you can do that, and I don't even want to guess. More than likely someone here has sent in more than one form at a time and can shed some more light on it.

[bac0nfat]

Originally Posted by jachrist

I dont think so. It's the govt. Nothing easy.

Plus, dont thise forms go to two separate addresses (one for suppressors and one for sbr's)???

No, they all go to the same place.

[fastfive0]

well no .223 suppressor is really "quiet". By nature its a loud round and the AR action substantiates it. To be truly quiet would require subsonics but noone has really come up with a load that will cycle in an AR. That being said an SBR without a silencer vs with is a night and day difference!! But if your truly just looking for the quietness....you need a 300 aac blackout AR!

As for perm attaching a suppressor to save $200....DONT DO IT!
Why you ask? for the reasons mentioned above....and a silencer is usually a lifetime purchase...meaning your not selling it...as they dont have much resale value....whereas you might want to try out 10 different barrel lengths/uppers/setups before you decide which one best suits you. Once you perm attach that silencer....you have that barrel for life lol.

[chrisazo1]

Anybody within a reasonable distance have an SBR suppressed that I might be able to hear in person with and without suppression? First beer would be on me...

[csementuh]

I'd certainly offer, but you're about 5 hours away. =(

How about doing an AR-15 pistol build with a suppressor for now if you don't want to do the 2 stamps at once?

It's beneficial to buy the $30 pistol buffer tube and be able to use the gun while you wait for the SBR stamp to come back.

If you're able, both stamps is definitely worth it. You have the modularity of doing anything with barrels to the SBR after the stamp gets back, and you can also use the suppressor on multiple hosts.

Ohh and BTW, you can send in more than one form at once. Whatcha think dealers do? :-)

[Wildturk]

I'd just get both Stamps now and be done with it. As mentioned, build it "as" a pistol until you get the SBR Stamp back. My only regret in SBRing, Form 1, was not getting more than one at a time.