BREAKING NEWS FROM FOX !! MASS Shooting at Ft.Hood in Killeen Texas !!

[jcabin]

9mm can pierce bullet proof vests just as easily. You just need to use a light grain bullet and a shit load of powder.

[mjfletcher]

Um, this thread has doubled in size since last night. There's no way I'm trying to wade through all this with my brains all fuzzy from cold meds.

[DaveM55]

Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot

Military bases are one of the most vulnerable. Fed law prohibits carry on them, except in execution of ones official duties. And I know from experience that most MP's have no ammunition. At least they did not in the late 80's/early 90's

I stand gate security at a military installation here in Pittsburgh and my M9 is fully loaded.

The military security forces carry loaded M9's and M16's.

I carried an unloaded 1911 back in the 70's and 80's in the Navy.

[phillyd2]

Originally Posted by phillyd2

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Who knows but if I had to guess it's what it is many times. The guy could not get laid. As simple as that. Any guy getting tons of fun usually does not go out shooting up places. So, I blame the women!

Any thinking this post is nuts please first read the last 34 pages and get back to me

Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md., ... spoke often with Hasan about Hasan's desire for a wife.

http://cbs11tv.com/local/fort.hood.s...2.1295824.html

[eXceLon]

There are too many posts here to follow, so I don't know if this has been posted already...

Letter from Fort Hood

A first hand account of what happened there.

[larrymeyer]

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity

Why just why is it always an anonymous source.

Originally Posted by jcabin

9mm can pierce bullet proof vests just as easily. You just need to use a light grain bullet and a shit load of powder.

The old vest a 22 or 25 would go through

[fingers80002]

Originally Posted by larrymeyer

Why just why is it always an anonymous source.

Because they won't work to find a credible source..........

[Paradigm]

Interesting things in this story...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572827,00.html

KILLEEN, Texas — The Army psychiatrist suspected in Thursday's shooting at Fort Hood, Texas, attended morning prayers at a local mosque hours before the rampage that killed 13, the mosque's imam told FoxNews.com.

Imam Syed Ahmed Ali said Major Nidal Malik Hasan usually worn his uniform or civilian clothes to prayers, but on Thursday, he attended in his full robe.

He always was punctual, Ali said, describing Hasan as happy with his life and satisfied with the military — not someone who would carry out such violence.

“It was very wrong, very wrong. Very sad," Ali said. "His behavior was not at all Islam. He hurt all Muslims.”

Interviews with Ali and other worshipers at the mosque, the Islamic Community of Greater Killeen, paint a portrait of a man devoted to his faith and troubled by his impending deployment to Afghanistan to contribute to a war effort he opposed at least partly on religious grounds.

"He obviously didn’t want to go," said Duane Reasoner, 18, who looked up to Hasan as a sort of religious mentor. "He said he shouldn’t be going to Iraq, and Muslims shouldn’t be in the military — it was an obvious conflict of interest. Muslims shouldn’t be killing Muslims. He told me not to join the military."

Reasoner said he wouldn't condemn Hasan after the shooting spree.

“I don’t know his intentions," Reasoner told FoxNews.com. "I don’t know what he was thinking. I won't condemn another Muslim.”

Soldiers reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" — an Arabic phrase for "God is great!" — before opening fire Thursday, said Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the post commander. He said officials had not confirmed Hasan made the comment.

Relatives have said Hasan felt harassed because of his Muslim faith but did not embrace extremism. Others were not so sure. A recent classmate said Hasan once gave a jarring presentation to students in which he argued the war on terrorism was a war against Islam, and "made himself a lightning rod for things" when he felt his religious beliefs were challenged.

Reasoner and Hasan went to dinner Wednesday night at a buffet before heading back to the mosque for last prayer. In the past, Reasoner had visited Hasan's apartment, which he described as small and very neat, with not much in it.

Victor Benjamin, 30, who also worships at the mosque, said Hasan was looking for a wife and praying that Allah would send him a good woman.

Reasoner and Benjamin both said they never heard Hasan say anything about having problems with other soldiers because he was Muslim, despite a cousin's claims that Hasan was targeted for harassment.

Ali, the Imam, said Hasan had told him a few weeks ago he was leaving Thursday to spend two or three weeks in Virginia with his parents until his deployment.

That trip apparently never happened. Instead, Hasan, wounded in the crossfire, is on a ventilator and accused of carrying out the deadliest shootings ever on a U.S. military base.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Apparently, it's bad for muslims to join the military and kill other muslims...but it's just peachy keen to kill unarmed Americans. And we have one of his fellow muslims saying that he won't condemn what he did? Perhaps this will help some people in this thread understand why others in this thread are so vocal about the violence of islam?

The imam was the only one who spoke against it. Major kudos for that. But he also didn't know about his dislike of serving in the military. I wonder who knew this guy better...the imam or the fellow muslim?

And his relatives said he didn't embrace extremism? What would be "extremism" in their minds?

[SHEPHERD321]

Lets not jump to conclusions about the shooter. An Obama quote.
Like he did when his friend acted like as ass to the cop. The policeman acted stupidly.
F affirmative action. F the army policy of going out of there way for muslims. I can't believe the US elected one.
Hey dik hed general THIS WAS AN ACT OF TERRORISM! Its much more than a criminal act! The muslims in the mosque with this guy should be detained, they had to know something.

[normanvin]

Originally Posted by larrymeyer

Why just why is it always an anonymous source.



The old vest a 22 or 25 would go through

Originally Posted by fingers80002

Because they won't work to find a credible source..........

You need to remember that news does not necessarily sell papers. SENSATIONAL outrageous news sells papers. Then you need to factor in the personal spin that the reporter has to add to the story.