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In general if i'm on my property and there is a threatening dog. I have a shovel to go with the pistol and vet services won't be needed to finish the job. no need for extra parties to be involved.
As long as you are on YOUR property and the dog comes on to YOUR property.
In this case, it appears the dog was on his owner's property and did not follow the shooter or his kids.
Hell, for all we know, there may have been an invisible fence keeping the dog on it's property.
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Agree 100 percent with this post. The threat to the shooter was gone. He went inside his home, presumably closed the door. His children and himself were safe. Now... the crime... he went in, retrieved his pistol, went outside and shot the dog. The man, if trained in the use of pistol should not have done that. Calling the police was the best option. He will pay a fine on this. If he has a LTCF, he should be prepared to lose it. Just my opine.

"Wow, if this is what really happened i don't think the shooter is getting off. once he went into his house with his kids the danger to him was over. calling police would have been the thing to do at this point. sice he decided to go back out with a weapon and put the dog down he fails. as for the dog owner, he should have not have had his dog off leash wandering around. sometimes dogs get loose and if it's an agressive dog that makes for a bad situation all around."
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My wife and I were out walking in SGL 156, we were pretty far back when she saw two dogs running full charge at us. I had my XD with me and gripped it. I saw the dogs and the way they were running looked to me like two excited dogs wanting to be pet! I eased my grip but still kept me hand on it. They got to within 25 yds when I spotted the owners, seems we all spotted each other at the same time. The owners immediately started yelling "they won't bite, they won't bite!" The dogs tails were wagging and they looked like they were "smiling" (come on, you know dogs smile!) They got close to us and I relaxed, covered my XD and petted the dogs. It could have been worse! These were jsut your average mixed breeds. There was this one time while out hiking that two Pits came runnging at our group. I pulled my XD this time, these dogs didn't have that "happy to see you" look, but their owners were closer to them and called them off and leashed them. The owners didn't apologize and just glared at us. I mentioned to them about the sign at the trialhead that says " DOGS MUST BE LEASHED"!

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We had a neighborhood dog that kept getting loose and chasing my wife and or kids. One day I heard the wife yelling and I went outside and this mutt was barking and chasing her, I ran over and tried to kick it, he was way to quick but that started a 20 minute chase back and forth between me and dog. I'm trying to kick, punch, grab and dog just keeps outta reach, he was pissed, mouth foaming lunging at me. Owner finally comes out and he stands there looking dumb for like 5 minutes, of course, with me looking as wild eyed as the dog, he didnt want in the middle of this one. I finally asked him if it was his and when he said yes I told him if I get him I know I'll get bit but I'm going to kill him. He chased the dog home. They got rid of the dog same week.
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Going with a baseball bat after a guy that knowingly has a gun ... am I the only one who thinks that is as stupid as it gets?


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The word "pursue" means "chase or follow". If a dog chases you, or someone else, and it is not on its owner's property, the statute says you can kill it with no repercussions.

Dogs are required to be leashed. Period. While there are many an owner who claim that their dogs are as good as leashed because they are so well trained, the reality is rarely anything close. If you have a dog off of your property, and it is not on a leash, and it gets shot, you have no one to blame but yourself.
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Agreed. If this guy shoots my dog on my property he won't have to worry about me coming at him with a bat. If all accounts of this story are true then I'd say the shooter was on a mission.
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Maybe he was planning on using the bullets like baseballs and swing at them as they came out of the gun
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The word "pursue" means "chase or follow". If a dog chases you, or someone else, and it is not on its owner's property, the statute says you can kill it with no repercussions.

Dogs are required to be leashed. Period. While there are many an owner who claim that their dogs are as good as leashed because they are so well trained, the reality is rarely anything close. If you have a dog off of your property, and it is not on a leash, and it gets shot, you have no one to blame but yourself.

I just need to add - who's property or land is really irrelevant.

If I go onto my neighbors property and their dog attacks me = canine open season. Not only does a dog have to be restrained to an owner's properties/lands, but also from causing harm to other persons or animals while on the owner's land.
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In general if i'm on my property and there is a threatening dog. I have a shovel to go with the pistol and vet serivices won't be needed to finish the job. no need for extra parties to be involved.
Exactly. Make sure it's dead, dispose of it and never speak of it again. End of problem.
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