Dickson City: Police Report shows confusion on gun dispute

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Ten*K

Quote:
These Guys are a Bunch of MAROONS, (to steal Bugs Bunny's line). They not only show up with guns exposed on their hips, sit with their families, near my table, but they say they are just like any father protecting their family. My kids were the first ones to notice them, I thought at first they were Policemen, but then when I asked the service Manager of Old Country and she didn't know anything, I asked the guy sitting two booths down from me and he gave me that line about being a father just like me. SORRY chum, your nothing like me. I was one of the people that called 911, and when the police came they asked me to wait. I got to see all these guys come out of the restaurant, some pushing out their chest, others TRYING to push out their chest but couldn't, it was funny to watch at first, spouting of about their rights, but then this rather elderly rotund guy, removed his gun, and ejected the clip and started playing with the bullets it became Scary. I for one will not return to Old Country Buffet do to them tolerating them being their, letting them back in and apparently they let them in again a couple days later. I would hope other people would stop going to, and yes we used to go to Old Country buffet a Lot!
Patrick Murphy, Scranton, Pa


You, sir, are obviously the direct descendant of a long line of retardo-cunts.

Where do the quoted material come from above - allegedly said by Patrick Murphy??

[TaurusGuy]

It's from an online reply he posted to one of the articles written.

[Cougar8045]

My guess is Patrick Murphy is nothing more than a fake name. Let's just leave it alone and move on. The more we criticize his quote, the more arouse he gets. We are better than that. I, for one, will not fall for that "banana in the tailpipe trick."

[DanielJ]

Originally Posted by LittleRedToyota

inquiring and demanding are two different things, though. the PA UFA only requires that you produce the LTCF upon "lawful demand" (not "lawful request" and not just "demand").

i don't see how there can be a "lawful demand" without RAS of a crime (not RAS of CCing as CCing is not a crime unless you do not have an LTCF). i don't see how you are not just free to leave without RAS of a crime.

let me ask you this:

do you think that, if a police officer sees someone driving a car, that, in and of itelf, means he can lawfully demand to see the persons driver's license?

i don't think it does...as there is no RAS of a crime/traffic infraction...but maybe i am wrong about that.



i think they can ask anything they want. the question is whether or not you have to comply with their request.

if you have to comply with their request, you are being detained. and i do not see how you can be detained without RAS of a crime...and i don't see how just CCing is RAS of unlicensed carry anymore than just driving is RAS of driving without a license.

“We hold today that the police have greater authority to make a ‘seizure’ and conduct a ‘search’ than a judge has to authorize such action. We have said precisely the opposite over and over again.”
“To give the police greater power than a magistrate is to take a long step down the totalitarian path. Perhaps such a step is desirable to cope with modern forms of lawlessness. But if it is taken, it should be the deliberate choice of the people through a constitutional amendment.”
Dissenting opinion of Justice Douglas in Terry