Obama administration attempts to cold shoulder Fox News

[ehidle]

Originally Posted by Morel42

If they wanted to silence Fox News, it would take about 15 minutes for the FCC commissioner getting the phone call to pull their airwaves and license.. lol

Fox News Network is a Cable channel... they don't use the airwaves.

[eXceLon]

I would hardly consider Fox News to be a news outlet, nor does anything they do really count as journalism.

Their entire lineup is just one political commentator after another, and even in their supposed "news shows" the reporters and anchors insert a huge amount of commentary and bias. What's worse is that they've shown the world that this is what gets the ratings, so all of the other news networks have followed suit. CNN wasn't exactly great to begin with, but they've taken their cue from Fox and done more or less the same thing.

There is a reason that Jon Stewart was a critic of shows like CNN's Crossfire. People seem to think these days that if you put an idiot Republican on one side of the screen and an idiot Democrat on the other, and have them scream at each other for 30 minutes, that this constitutes "fair and balanced" journalism. People these days get their "news" from commentators spouting worthless opinions with little to no factual basis.

Television news is completely worthless, I rarely ever watch it any more. The written word is much less prone to sensationalism, though newspapers and online articles should still be taken with a grain of salt. Cable news is pretty much just entertainment these days, it's not meant to be informative.

Fox News is without question the worst in the bunch. Other media outlets may certainly be biased, but I don't remember NBC organizing any protests against the Bush Administration. Unlike, you know, this:

[adymond]

Originally Posted by eXceLon

Fox News is without question the worst in the bunch. Other media outlets may certainly be biased, but I don't remember NBC organizing any protests against the Bush Administration. Unlike, you know, this:

So by reporting on where the protests were going to be held it is somehow organizing the protests? Does that mean the media also organized the vilent G20 protests?

[kunsunoke]

Originally Posted by dc dalton

Well let's turn this on it's ear JUST a bit more.

(SNIP)

The day this country gets a real news station back on air is the day we can all start getting this country back on its feet!

News has never been unbiased, nor has it ever been fair.

Expecting it to achieve some idealized standard of neutrality is a bit like whittling towards one's self or urinating into the wind.

I personally think we ought to get rid of the restrictions and let the chips fall where they may.

It's sort of happening now with commercial news programming.

People in the "progressive" movement may hate like hell to hear it, but Fox News has better ratings than CNN or MSNBC combined.

The naked truth is that that the credibility of the latter two entities (and of the broadcast networks) is undermined by their unsupported, cynical claim that they are "unbiased". Ample evidence exists that the opposite is true.

This is the primary reason Barack Obama is trying to pull an Alinsky on Fox News. Denigration and ridicule is supposed to undermine credibility and impact.

Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals calls for progressives to recognize when they're operating outside of their areas of expertise, however.

The Administration's attempts might have worked back in January or February, when there was sufficient political capital, but ultimately BO hasn't the skill to pull it off - even though he might think otherwise.

[PocketProtector]

Originally Posted by Morel42

Ohh please, stop with the 1984 stuff already.. Every thread is about it nowadays.. lol Go ahead and look.

If they wanted to silence Fox News, it would take about 15 minutes for the FCC commissioner getting the phone call to pull their airwaves and license.. lol

That's not what they're doing. They're doing the typical Democratic dumb shit move by letting everyone but them dictate the discussion and political game.

You should also be aware that the same people who you claim are trying to silence the opposition, are apart of the same party who makes sure that PAFOA gets the same amount of access to bandwidth as Democratic Underground. Net Neutrality anyone?

Don't mistake plain stupidity for pure evil NWO Tin foil hat stuff..

The truth is ...I hope I'm wrong...and if exposing O's Maoist friends and policies and keeping them front and center for all his apologists to see and clumsily defend makes me wrong in the long run.....mission accomplished.

[CarolinaGuy]

Originally Posted by ehidle

Fox News Network is a Cable channel... they don't use the airwaves.

Sure they do. I live 200 feet from comcast, their back property is lined with huge satellites. If they're doing a live news shoot from a helicopter, do you think they have a cable tethered to the news station?
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I'll ask it again...how come after Bush's sweeping 2004 victory, Fox had that famous red map on their homepage showing the lopsided nature of the victory... for four years.

Now that Obama won...no map.

All news is biased. Fox, by far, is the most.

[velkly]

Originally Posted by CarolinaGuy

All news is biased.

Agree 100%. News is always slanted, one way or another, by the individual writing about it.

Originally Posted by CarolinaGuy

Fox, by far, is the most.

I think most would agree that Fox trends towards the conservative, however they are far from the most biased. Unless you've ignored every other news outlet on TV, it's obvious to see that Fox has the least amount of bias giving the "by far the most" title to MSNBC.

[pyld]

Originally Posted by MrUgly

This is an attempt at pure censorship. Does anyone else feel we are looking over a precipice?

Nope.

Censorship implies that they stopped Fox News from broadcasting something. That's not what is happening. They are not talking to Fox. There is a significant difference.

Originally Posted by MrUgly

It is an attempt to suppress a part of the Fourth Estate for ideological reasons.

This can not go unchallenged.

Fox News is not really a part of the Fourth Estate. It's ideologically slanted by design.

I don't watch FNC, nor MBNBC, nor CNN with the expectation of news.

Refusing to talk to FNC is significantly different than actually censoring FNC.

[adymond]

Originally Posted by pyld

Nope.

Censorship implies that they stopped Fox News from broadcasting something. That's not what is happening. They are not talking to Fox. There is a significant difference.



Fox News is not really a part of the Fourth Estate. It's ideologically slanted by design.

I don't watch FNC, nor MBNBC, nor CNN with the expectation of news.

Refusing to talk to FNC is significantly different than actually censoring FNC.

All true, but would you have offered the same support had Bush decided to not speak to the NY Times or which ever TV network was running with the falsified story about him being AWOL?

[LittleRedToyota]

if you agree with fox's slant, then "fox is the least biased".

if you agree with msnbc's slant, then "msnbc is the least biased".

if you agree with cnn's slant, then "cnn is the least biased".

they all claim to be unbiased (it was, after all, fox who came up with the marketing slogans "fair and balanced" and "we report, you decide").

the truth, of course, is that they are all biased...and they are all replacing real news reporting with talk radio type opinion spouting. this should not be surprising since those shows garner greater ratings and, after all, all of these organizations are for-profit companies.

personally, though, the fact that CNN has/had given shows to people like lou dobbs and glenn beck makes it appear at first glance at least that they may be less uniformly biased than fox. i can't think of any equivalent left-leaning commentators with their own shows on Fox.

imho, if you want to get your news from a single source that is as close to unbiased as possible, you should get your news from STRATFOR. but, they aren't even a news organization. and, no one should ever get all of their news from a single organization anyway.

stratfor
fox
cnn
msnbc
npr
bbc
wall street journal
haaretz
etc.

put it all together and you *might* end up getting the whole story.