Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association

Go Back   Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association Discussion Forum > Law & Politics > National

National Discuss national politics and laws here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old July 12th, 2007
Super Member
PAFOA Silver Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location:
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
(Allegheny County)
Posts: 792
Rep Power: 21
jkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant future
Default Jared Jewelers threatens "arrest" of anyone carrying firearms

I found a post on The High Road indicating that Jared Jewelers has a strictly anti-firearm policy. Out of curiosity, I sent an e-mail to them asking them to clarify. This is the response I received:


On 7/12/07, jaredcr@jewels.com <jaredcr@jewels.com> wrote:Your customer service representative is:Emily Myers
Summary: Merchandise at Jared

Dear Mr. [jkp1187],

As part of corporate policy, Jared reserves the right to prohibit the carrying of firearms/weapons or dangerous ordinance of any kind, concealed or otherwise, on company property. The security personnel provided in our Jared stores, as a prerequisite of employment with Jared, have gone through extensive training and background checks. Any attempt to bring firearms/weapons or dangerous ordinance will result in arrest by the appropriate authorities and possible prosecution.

This policy was adopted to help provide a safe environment for our customers and our employees.


Sincerely,

Emily Myers
Customer Relations


****

Interesting....I had no idea that Jared was going to conduct a citizens' arrest for someone legally possessing a firearm.

For the record, this is the email I sent to them earlier:




I am currently in the market for a gift for my fiancee for our upcoming wedding. However, it has recently come to my attention that Jared has a policy banning individuals from carrying firearms into their stores -- even if these weapons are carried legally in accordance with a state-issued concealed carry permit.

If this is indeed Jared's policy, then I will have to remove Jared from the list of jewelry stores that I regularly patronize. Certainly, no one carrying a firearm with malicious intent will be deterred from such a policy, but instead, ordinary law-abiding citizens who are respectful of such requests will be the only ones penalized. And, in this case, the potential penalty (-ies) for complying with such a policy -- risking grievous bodily harm and/or death -- are far too high to contemplate.

Please clarify your policy to me at your earliest possible convenience.

Very truly yours,

[JKP1187]


For what it's worth, I think Bluenile.com is a great way to go for purchases of such merchandise....and my fiancee does, too! Free shipping and 30-day return policy -- can't beat that.

Last edited by jkp1187; July 12th, 2007 at 07:10 PM.
Reply With Quote

Thanks for visiting our forum! If you ever plan to return you should consider quickly registering for a forum account, especially if you're in Pennsylvania. It's simple to do and best of all free. Once registered you'll be able to participate in our discussions and keep up to date on issues important to Pennsylvania firearm owners!

  #2 (permalink)  
Old July 12th, 2007
RocketFoot's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location:
Latrobe, Pennsylvania
(Westmoreland County)
Age: 38
Posts: 3,797
Rep Power: 190
RocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Jared Jewelers threatens "arrest" of anyone carrying firearms

I wonder if they are using metal detectors or strip searches? How would they know if you are CC'ing?
__________________

The Gun Gallery : "REBORN" Blog : ZRT Forum
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old July 12th, 2007
TwistedCopper's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location:
Spring Grove, Pennsylvania
(York County)
Posts: 456
Rep Power: 20
TwistedCopper has a brilliant futureTwistedCopper has a brilliant futureTwistedCopper has a brilliant futureTwistedCopper has a brilliant futureTwistedCopper has a brilliant futureTwistedCopper has a brilliant futureTwistedCopper has a brilliant futureTwistedCopper has a brilliant futureTwistedCopper has a brilliant futureTwistedCopper has a brilliant futureTwistedCopper has a brilliant future
Default Re: Jared Jewelers threatens "arrest" of anyone carrying firearms

I'm curios...

Is it possible that if they posted a sign prohibiting the entry of anyone possessing a weapon then you would be trespassing? What I mean is if it is clear that an armed person is not allowed in the store then if you enter it carrying a firearm are you not then trespassing? Maybe it's a stretch but I have to ask...
__________________
Esse quam videri
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old July 12th, 2007
KeithPA's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location:
Pennsylvania
(Erie County)
Age: 24
Posts: 1,511
Rep Power: 8
KeithPA is a jewel in the roughKeithPA is a jewel in the roughKeithPA is a jewel in the roughKeithPA is a jewel in the rough
Send a message via AIM to KeithPA
Default Re: Jared Jewelers threatens "arrest" of anyone carrying firearms

I've seen a sign that says to the affect "members only, trespassers with be charged with defiant tresspass [cites statute]" I've only seen it twice and both place were members places and are the most detailed as compared to a simple sign. The property was also not open to the public as Jared's is. I dunno if those signs hold any weight, let alone some little no gun sign outside of Jareds.

Do Jareds actually have security guards?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old July 12th, 2007
Super Member
PAFOA Silver Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location:
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
(Allegheny County)
Posts: 792
Rep Power: 21
jkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant future
Default Re: Jared Jewelers threatens "arrest" of anyone carrying firearms

Found this --



http://members.aol.com/statutesPA/18.Cp.35.html

§ 3503. Criminal trespass.



(b) Defiant trespasser.--
  1. A person commits an offense if, knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so, he enters or remains in any place as to which notice against trespass is given by:
    (i)actual communication to the actor;
    (ii)posting in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders;
    (iii)fencing or other enclosure manifestly designed to exclude intruders;
    (iv)notices posted in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the person's attention at each entrance of school grounds that visitors are prohibited without authorization from a designated school, center or program official; or
    (v)an actual communication to the actor to leave school grounds as communicated by a school, center or program official, employee or agent or a law enforcement officer.
  2. Except as provided in paragraph (1)(v), an offense under this subsection constitutes a misdemeanor of the third degree if the offender defies an order to leave personally communicated to him by the owner of the premises or other authorized person. An offense under paragraph (1)(v) constitutes a misdemeanor of the first degree. Otherwise it is a summary offense.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old July 12th, 2007
Super Member
PAFOA Silver Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location:
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
(Allegheny County)
Posts: 792
Rep Power: 21
jkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant futurejkp1187 has a brilliant future
Default Re: Jared Jewelers threatens "arrest" of anyone carrying firearms

Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketFoot View Post
I wonder if they are using metal detectors or strip searches? How would they know if you are CC'ing?
They probably wouldn't. Still, no reason to give them any of my money if they're going to act in this manner.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old July 13th, 2007
RocketFoot's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location:
Latrobe, Pennsylvania
(Westmoreland County)
Age: 38
Posts: 3,797
Rep Power: 190
RocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond reputeRocketFoot has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Jared Jewelers threatens "arrest" of anyone carrying firearms

Quote:
Originally Posted by jkp1187 View Post
They probably wouldn't. Still, no reason to give them any of my money if they're going to act in this manner.
Agreed, we should start a thread of anti-gun business's so we can all boycott them!
__________________

The Gun Gallery : "REBORN" Blog : ZRT Forum
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old July 16th, 2007
crazyyankee's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location:
Mount Wolf, Pennsylvania
(York County)
Posts: 350
Rep Power: 6
crazyyankee is just really nicecrazyyankee is just really nicecrazyyankee is just really nicecrazyyankee is just really nice
Send a message via MSN to crazyyankee Send a message via Yahoo to crazyyankee
Default Re: Jared Jewelers threatens "arrest" of anyone carrying firearms

Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketFoot View Post
Agreed, we should start a thread of anti-gun business's so we can all boycott them!
I think that is a good idea...

A sticky thread that shows what groups are trying to violate our rights and what businesses that support the anti-gunners.

There may already be a link or something that exists on the NRA or GOA sites.


The only thing I think that having a thread like that here is it would be more local and not national...

Last edited by crazyyankee; July 16th, 2007 at 09:33 AM. Reason: additional comments
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old July 16th, 2007
Super Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location:
Dillsburg, Pennsylvania
(York County)
Posts: 557
Rep Power: 37
rev214 has a reputation beyond reputerev214 has a reputation beyond reputerev214 has a reputation beyond reputerev214 has a reputation beyond reputerev214 has a reputation beyond reputerev214 has a reputation beyond reputerev214 has a reputation beyond reputerev214 has a reputation beyond reputerev214 has a reputation beyond reputerev214 has a reputation beyond reputerev214 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Jared Jewelers threatens "arrest" of anyone carrying firearms

the nra-ila has a fact sheet that lists some corporations (along with organizations and individuals)...

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=15
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Do you carry "pepper spray" also when carrying a concealed weapon? dnar Concealed Carry 87 May 12th, 2008 04:12 PM
Bloomberg Calls Fraternal Order Of Police A "Fringe Organization" nra-life-member General 8 May 21st, 2007 12:27 AM
ABC’s "20/20" Seeking "Armed Citizen" Stories NineseveN News 5 April 8th, 2007 06:09 AM
Met "Rock Star Ted Nugent" in Reading, PA and he asked us to relay a message for him. dnar General 17 March 24th, 2007 08:08 AM
So where the heck is the "Firearms For Sale Specially Selected" section? luckyned7 Support & Suggestions 3 February 21st, 2007 09:55 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Marketing Services provided by MergeMedia.