Modest gun-control measure passes US lower house

[rev214]

modest gun control???

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Originally Posted by rev214

modest gun control???

Yea, that's the kind doesn't hurt until it become law and find out how badly you've been screwed.

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The AP removed the paragraph I cited in an earlier post (this thread).

Here is the original article, prior to being molested. Formatting may be FUBAR. This is just another attempt at MassMedia trying to reduce and remove coverage of Ron Paul.

House OKs gun legislation after Virginia Tech
NRA, Dems agree to improve states’ sharing of background check info

The legislation passed Wednesday by the House gained momentum after the Virginia Tech shootings in which a student killed 32 others and then himself.

Updated: 1:26 p.m. ET June 13, 2007
WASHINGTON - The House Wednesday passed what could become the first major federal gun control law in over a decade, spurred by the Virginia Tech campus killings and buttressed by National Rifle Association help.
The bill, which was passed on a voice vote, would improve state reporting to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System to stop gun purchases by people, including criminals and those adjudicated as mentally defective, who are prohibited from possessing firearms.
Seung-Hui Cho, who in April killed 32 students and faculty at Virginia Tech before taking his own life, had been ordered to undergo outpatient mental health treatment and should have been barred from buying two guns he used in the rampage. But the state of Virginia had never forwarded this information to the national background check system.
If it moves through the Senate and is signed into law by the president, the bill would be the most important gun control act since Congress banned some assault weapons in 1994, the last year Democrats controlled the House. In 1996, Congress added people convicted of domestic violence to the list of those banned from purchasing firearms.
Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. a proponent of gun control legislation, said the chances of Senate passage were “very strong.” He said, “When the NRA and I agree on legislation, you know that it’s going to get through, become law and do some good.”
The bill was the outcome of weeks of negotiations between Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., the most senior member of the House and a strong supporter of gun rights, and the NRA, and in turn, with Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., a leading gun-control advocate.
"This is good policy that will save lives," McCarthy said.
NRA: This is not gun control
The NRA insisted that it was not a "gun control" bill because it does not disqualify anyone currently able to legally purchase a firearm.
The NRA has always supported the NICS, said the organization's executive vice president, Wayne LaPierre. "We've always been vigilant about protecting the rights of law-abiding citizens to purchase guns, and equally vigilant about keeping the guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally defective and people who shouldn't have them."
Under a gun control act that passed in 1968, the year Robert F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. were killed, people barred from buying guns include those convicted of a crime punishable by more than one year in prison, illegal drug users, those adjudicated as mentally disabled, and illegal aliens.
The legislation approved Wednesday would require states to automate and share disqualifying records with the FBI's NICS database. The bill also provides $250 million a year over the next three years to help states meet those goals and imposes penalties, including cuts in federal grants under an anti-crime law, to those states that fail to meet benchmarks for automating their systems and supplying information to the NICS.

Va. Tech report finds problems with privacy laws

House action came as a panel that President Bush ordered to investigate the Virginia Tech shootings issued recommendations on ways the federal government can prevent such tragedies.
Also on Wednesday, Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine said that in ordering state executive branch agencies to upgrade background check reporting last month he had found that Virginia was one of only 22 states reporting any mental health information to the NICS. Kaine, a Democrat, said the House bill was “significant action to honor the memories of the victims who lost their lives at Virginia Tech.”
CONTINUED: NRA got some concessions
The NRA did win some concessions in negotiating the final product.
It would automatically restore the purchasing rights of veterans who were diagnosed with mental problems as part of the process of obtaining disability benefits. LaPierre said the Clinton administration put about 80,000 such veterans into the background check system.
It also outlines an appeals process for those who feel they have been wrongfully included in the system and ensures that funds allocated to improve the NICS are not used for other gun control purposes.
"It was necessary to make some accommodations to address the concerns of gun owners," said House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich., adding that he would be closely monitoring the provision on restoring gun rights to veterans judged to have mental disabilities.
Brady group supports
Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said his group supported the legislation, noting that the Virginia Tech shootings "tragically demonstrated the gaps in the system that allowed a dangerous person to be armed."
He said he hoped Congress and the gun lobby would go a step further and extend background checks to all gun sales, not just those licenses dealers covered by current law.
The only dissenting vote in the short House debate on the bill was voiced by GOP presidential aspirant Ron Paul of Texas. He described the bill as "a flagrantly unconstitutional expansion of restriction on the exercise of the right to bear arms protected under the 2nd Amendment.
McCarthy, in an emotional speech, said that "this has been a long, long journey for me." She ran for Congress on a gun control agenda after her husband was gunned down on a Long Island commuter train in 1993.
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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I guess I'm in the minority on this issue; wouldn't be the first time.

Originally Posted by TheHighChild

Don't let the NRA lobby tell you what to think. Soon, the NRA will (and has) made all sorts of concessions. If you let them tell you when to rise up, when to speak up and when to sit down and STFU, you've lost your voice and won't be getting it back any time soon.

Just because I don't agree with you on this issue doesn't mean I let the NRA tell me how to think. On the contrary, comments like your "the MAN is getting to you, brother!" more often than not foster a gang mentality, coercing those undecided to select a position they may not have on their own. If you read my post again, I read the text of the bill first, and then read the NRA's information on it, and it happened to line up with my initial impression.

Do I understand your position and that of others here? Yes, I do; I can see the other side of the argument objectively and understand why some would disagree with this bill.

Am I berating you for disagreeing with me? No, because I respect that you have the right to an opinion. Please respect mine.