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Default Is an Israeli attack on Iran eminent

Some strange news stories coming out of different places that all seem to point to the possibility of an Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear sites.

First one from the UK:

Saudis give nod to Israeli raid on Iran

Seems the Saudis are saying okay to Israel to fly over their country for an assault.

IAF to train overseas for Iran strike op

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On the day that US Vice President Joe Biden seemed to give Israel a green light for military action to eliminate Iran's nuclear threat, The Jerusalem Post learned that the IAF plans to participate in aerial exercises in the US and Europe in the coming months with the aim of training its pilots for long-range flights.

Have to tell you, I can NOT imagine the shit that's gonna fly if Israel hits them .... I think it will inflame the entire area even more. Syria, Lebanon ... the whole works.

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It is if you read this link Biden approves it

http://forum.pafoa.org/lounge-108/64...ran-stand.html
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With the protests and riots that were going on in Iran now combined with an Israeli attack on a nuke facility; you bet your ass that those riots will become full blown revolution. The people of Iran are scared that if their government procures nuclear weapons that they will be a glass parking lot and that Israel will do it without hesitation.
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Default Re: Is an Israeli attack on Iran eminent

I really think that it's a matter of time. With all the rhetoric out of Iran, do you blame them for being edgy? Especially if Iran become nuclear.

The Israeli government is putting all the pieces together for an attack. They are trying to make sure that they step on the least amount of toes as possible.

If it does ... all the gold some people on this board has been buying, will definitely do well. Not to mention that you will see gas hit $4 very quickly.
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Honestly, if Israel does attack Iran it basically is proof that the Central Banks are running the world with a select few politicans as far as I am concerned.

Ask yourself this, why would Biden say what he said with all the peacenick rhetoric coming out of Barry's mouth?

Better yet, why in the hell would Saudi Arabia give Israel the green light? (Besides the fact that the Saudi's probably hate the Iranians more than the Jews, well at least a hatred on the same level, but Israel is the lesser or two evils......Israel is "controlled" by the US.)

I dunno, this all seems like a way to make the dollar a "needed commodity" all of a sudden again.....or am I wrong?

I'm just asking, since the dollar is the only currency dealt with when it comes to oil (Least for the most part still right?). If the price goes up, doesn't the rest of the world all of a sudden have a large demand for dollars, at a time (right now) when the demand is seriously lacking? Basically manipulating the currency markets through the price of oil by starting a conflict.......

Isn't that the modus operandi of central banking?
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and you better believe we will be paying $7+ per gallon of gas...because all of the oil speculators will drive up the price as they will say Iran will stop pumping their oil.
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I really don't think Isreal has a choice. Imagine your neighbor is building a bomb in his house and has told you he wants to blow you off the face of the Earth. You have the ability to stop him, do you?
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Honestly, if Israel does attack Iran it basically is proof that the Central Banks are running the world with a select few politicans as far as I am concerned.

Ask yourself this, why would Biden say what he said with all the peacenick rhetoric coming out of Barry's mouth?

Better yet, why in the hell would Saudi Arabia give Israel the green light? (Besides the fact that the Saudi's probably hate the Iranians more than the Jews, well at least a hatred on the same level, but Israel is the lesser or two evils......Israel is "controlled" by the US.)

I dunno, this all seems like a way to make the dollar a "needed commodity" all of a sudden again.....or am I wrong?

I'm just asking, since the dollar is the only currency dealt with when it comes to oil (Least for the most part still right?). If the price goes up, doesn't the rest of the world all of a sudden have a large demand for dollars, at a time (right now) when the demand is seriously lacking? Basically manipulating the currency markets through the price of oil by starting a conflict.......

Isn't that the modus operandi of central banking?
Higher oil prices should drive up the demand for US Dollars. However, you have had china sign deals with at least 5 other countries for either currency swaps or to transact in local currencies. I can't remember exactly which countries right now, but I know that at least one is an oil producing country. So no US Dollars would be needed at all.
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Higher oil prices should drive up the demand for US Dollars. However, you have had china sign deals with at least 5 other countries for either currency swaps or to transact in local currencies. I can't remember exactly which countries right now, but I know that at least one is an oil producing country. So no US Dollars would be needed at all.
There are actually many MANY 'rumblings' about countries 'dropping' the dollar. Between those rumblings and several others things I have read over the past few weeks I am TRULY afraid schmol's prediction could very well be the honest to god's truth.
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I dunno, this all seems like a way to make the dollar a "needed commodity" all of a sudden again.....or am I wrong?
You're wrong, IMHO. You're contriving an entirely too complicated rationale for Israel's motives and for the acquiescence of the Arab nations. Here's how it goes: Israel cannot afford to let Iran go Nuclear. This is not a debatable point, and I don't care to do so. The rest of the middle east cannot afford to let Iran go Nuclear, and some of them realize it (like the Saudis, for example, who granted Israel flyover permission). It is in everyone's best interests for Israel, who is already unpopular and known for doing these kinds of things very effectively, to do what needs doing. Behind closed doors, many of the Arab nations are likely in support of Israel's moves, as the enemy of my enemy is my friend... and Iran is not exactly a welcome addition to the neighborhood for several of those countries. Publicly, they can't say so, but privately, I'm sure they've made it clear that retaliation will not be an option since, after all, it involves a foreign sovereign nation and, well golly gee, Israel didn't do anything to us, now did they?

If Israel does strike, it basically confirms the utter failure of the Clinton model of negotiations... IE: the failed policies of the past. If it proves effective, I can foresee something similar in the works for NK. Diplomacy only works when men of good faith sit down and talk. Kim Jong-Il and Achmawhathisname are not men of good faith. Period.
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