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By Tim Nelson

CHAPEL HILL (WTVD) -- There are two questions following a rowdy student protest at UNC Chapel Hill Tuesday night.

Did the protest get out of line and did campus police go too far?

Dozens of protesters turned out to oppose a speech given by a former Colorado congressman, who was on campus to speak against illegal immigration.


Tom Tancredo didn't make it through his talk. In fact, he left campus early after protesters interrupted his speech and broke a window.

Protesters who weren't allowed into the room where the speech was being given gathered outside the door and chanted, "There's no debate, no space for hate."

In video from Tuesday night's incident, things clearly grow more tense with campus police. There is pushing and shoving on both sides.

One officer is seen on video shaking pepper spray, which was used. Some protesters coughed and covered their mouths after it was sprayed.

In another video clip placed on You Tube, police can be seen shooting their tasers in the air. No protesters were tased and reportedly, no one was arrested.

Other video shows what was happening inside the classroom with Tancredo. The former congressman once ran for president on a platform firmly against illegal immigration. He was invited to UNC to deliver a speech opposing in-state tuition benefits to illegal immigrants.

Protesters interrupted his speech, stretching out a banner in front of him that read, "No one is illegal." Tancredo grabbed the banner and confronted one of the people holding it.

Then there was the sound of glass shattering. A window was broken by more opponents outside. As the situation escalated, Tancredo left.

Those who went to hear him speak were clearly upset. ""Obviously there wasn't a point," one attendee said. "He wasn't going to be allowed to speak."

UNC Chancellor Holden Thorp responded to Tuesday night's events and said, "We're very sorry that former Congressman Tancredo wasn't able to speak. We pride ourselves on being a place where all points of view can be expressed and heard, so I'm disappointed that didn't happen tonight. I think our public safety officer appropriately handled a difficult situation."
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They pride themselves on it, and yet it didn't happen, did it? It's one thing to say you hold a certain view, and quite another to back it up with action.

I don't worry though, I was one of those dumb, young college students once (I won't say "college kids", because THEY'RE NOT KIDS). It's easy for one to hold such idealistic viewpoints when one doesn't have to PAY for them. As soon as these students go out into the real world and realize they're getting taxed out the wazoo so that the beliefs they espoused can be realized, they'll change their tune. That's what happened to me, at least.
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"DON'T TAZE ME, BRO!!!"

And what is this "no one is illegal" nonsense? What does that mean for the millions of aliens who emigrate here legally?
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Ah yes...this is a perfect example of liberal open-mindedness and understanding of opposing viewpoints.

I wonder if the media will cover this with the same disdain they cover the tea parties.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Tancredo#Positions

Tancredo is an asshole in any way, shape or form that you may want to look at.

However, the students should not have protested to the point that he was unable to speak.

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He urges America to reject "the siren song of multiculturalism" and depicts Islam as "a civilization bent on destroying ours."....

Tancredo proposed that America respond to any future terrorist attack by bombing Mecca and other holy sites....
I think this bears repeating.

Tancredo is an asshole.
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Tancredo is an asshole in any way, shape or form that you may want to look at.

However, the students should not have protested to the point that he was unable to speak.



I think this bears repeating.

Tancredo is an asshole.
I agree, but like you said, he should've been allowed to speak. Hell, Columbia invited and allowed Ahmadinejad to speak, and even he was given the opportunity to make his point, however twisted it was. How is Tancredo any worse that he should be able to speak as an invited guest?
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They pride themselves on it, and yet it didn't happen, did it? It's one thing to say you hold a certain view, and quite another to back it up with action.

I don't worry though, I was one of those dumb, young college students once (I won't say "college kids", because THEY'RE NOT KIDS). It's easy for one to hold such idealistic viewpoints when one doesn't have to PAY for them. As soon as these students go out into the real world and realize they're getting taxed out the wazoo so that the beliefs they espoused can be realized, they'll change their tune. That's what happened to me, at least.
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I wonder how many of those students would have protested if they new that by allowing illegal immigrants to attend state universities their tuition would increase, their ability to obtain gov't backed student loans, and their price of books would have increased due to the influx of free students who would pay for nothing.
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I wonder how many of those students would have protested if they new that by allowing illegal immigrants to attend state universities their tuition would increase, their ability to obtain gov't backed student loans, and their price of books would have increased due to the influx of free students who would pay for nothing.
I'm pretty sure you have no idea of what you are talking about. I've known PLENTY of undocumented people (Mexicans, Russians, Bulgarian, and a few others) who've put themselves through college, and they never got a penny for free; they tried, but it never works out. They worked their asses off to pay the out-of-state tuition and buy books.

The only ones wanting (demanding) free education are the documented ones. And generally they don't put in a quarter of the effort in school than the undocumented ones I've seen.

But hey, what do I know, I've actually witnessed this and not got my information from a mass-email.
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Illegal Immigrants should not be able to attend schools here as they are ILLEGAL which means they have no right to be here.

As for costs, the "idea" trying to be passed is to allow them to attend schools at the regular rate is going to fall flat on its face as it should. There is a STUDENT VISA for that, if they want to be here to go to school then there is a way to get that!

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DENVER (AP) — A proposal to allow illegal immigrants to pay in-state college tuition is up for another vote at the state Capitol.

The Senate Appropriations Committee is scheduled to vote on the measure (Senate Bill 170) Wednesday. The bill previously won the backing of the Senate Education Committee, but opponents asked the full Senate to delay a vote until the appropriations committee could review it.

Under legislative rules, the appropriations committee must review all bills that either cost or save money for the state.

The measure would allow illegal immigrants who attend Colorado high schools to pay in-state college tuition rates. But they'd still have to pay more for college because they wouldn't get the state stipend other Colorado students get.
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