Fred Thompson For 2008

[dgg9]

Originally Posted by ChamberedRound

Agreed. Fred Thompson is the only guy I like as much as Ron Paul for President. And Mr. Thompson has the benefit of being recognizable and being good in front of a camera.

That's where I stand too. I would vote for either one of them in the general election -- I would absolutely NOT vote for any other GOP candidate that I see.

[dgg9]

Originally Posted by cas

So rather than uniting under Ron Paul you wish to split . Might as well kiss your Rights goodbye. Ron Paul is the last hope for turning things around in the corporation

Hope? More like a dream. I'd vote for RP too, but he has zero chance of getting the nomination.

I need to see some intersection of "principled" AND "electable."

[nra-life-member]

Last time I checked on the presidential ticket, there will be ONE candidate under each party. We will unite under the right candidate.

[LittleRedToyota]

Originally Posted by dgg9

I need to see some intersection of "principled" AND "electable."

talk about dreamin'

seriously, though, the only way that has any chance of ever happening is if people start voting for "principled" until "principled" becomes "electable".

everyone who votes for the "lesser of two evils" just propogates the status quo...in which "principled" and "electable" don't ever intersect.

[dgg9]

Originally Posted by LittleRedToyota

everyone who votes for the "lesser of two evils" just propogates the status quo...in which "principled" and "electable" don't ever intersect.

The problem is that no two people 100% agree what "principled" means. "Electable" ALWAYS means some sort of coalition between related but not identical interests.

That's worth an entire thread unto itself. In general, I am pragmatic enough to vote lesser of two evils if the lesser evil actually slows the Leviathan State down. I do have a line in the sand, beyond which "lesser of evils" doesn't function.

ETA: as an exercise, we can come up with a 20-question list of policy positions. I predict that very few people on this board will agree on all 20. If voting for the "principled candidate" means voting only for someone in ideological lockstep with you, then the election is hopelessly Balkanized. In the real world we live in, there are only ever two choices. If one of those choices is decidely in your political center of gravity, it is foolish not to vote for him because he's not "perfect." In the real world, you have to pick a few issues that are primary to you, and vote for the best fit.

[TwistedCopper]

GO

FRED

GO!

[RiflesRock]

Fred isnt perfect but he's a lot better than any other GOP or Democratic canidate. Personally, I am voting for Ron Paul, even if I have to write him in!!! I will vote by principle and not by "who is the lesser evil." Purhaps if Ron Paul doesnt get nominated he could run on a third party. Remember folks vote principle, not polictics.

[TwistedCopper]

Originally Posted by RiflesRock

Fred isnt perfect but he's a lot better than any other GOP or Democratic canidate. Personally, I am voting for Ron Paul, even if I have to write him in!!! I will vote by principle and not by "who is the lesser evil." Purhaps if Ron Paul doesnt get nominated he could run on a third party. Remember folks vote principle, not polictics.

I'll be voting for whoever is the frontrunning conservative to beat the Dem nominee. I hope that to be Thompson, mainly because I think Ron Paul won't even make a showing. I wish he would but it is what it is.

[SpeakTrue]

Originally Posted by cas

So rather than uniting under Ron Paul you wish to split . Might as well kiss your Rights goodbye. Ron Paul is the last hope for turning things around in the corporation

Hmmmm, unite under who? Ron Who? Wow, there's a well-known candidate with a ZERO likelyhood of winning a presidential election! Gee let's unite under who is that again? Ron Paul....thanks, I, and no-one else in the U.S. ever would have heard about this guy if you hadn't mentioned him...

Come on, guys, if you are going to unite under a candidate, you might want to pick someone who is recognizable (like Thompson actually) and has actually been heard of....

Paul has the appeal of a tax accountant and the charisma of Barney Fife...he wants us to march out of Iraq and sees no problem with just leaving Iraq...with solutions like that, who needs him? I believe in finishing the war we have started so our grandchildren are not fighting it...we may be in trouble in Iraq, but walking out sounds like a nancy pelosi policy, not a policy I would support...

No, I bet Fred Thompson would be in favor of dividing Iraq into Kurdish, Sunni, and shiite areas before he would march out, and that, my friends, is the most serious battle that must be fought and finished, not run from and quit...

A libertarian view of gun ownership, or rather, philosophy of non-intervention, is worth far less to me than our determination against, and recognition of, those enemies who still plot our destruction across this planet.

It's not Ron Paul for me. For a view of just what lies in wait for us in this world take a gander at this interesting piece:

http://www.visayandailystar.com/2007.../20/negor1.htm

[SpeakTrue]

Originally Posted by dgg9

The problem is that no two people 100% agree what "principled" means. "Electable" ALWAYS means some sort of coalition between related but not identical interests.

That's worth an entire thread unto itself. In general, I am pragmatic enough to vote lesser of two evils if the lesser evil actually slows the Leviathan State down. I do have a line in the sand, beyond which "lesser of evils" doesn't function.

ETA: as an exercise, we can come up with a 20-question list of policy positions. I predict that very few people on this board will agree on all 20. If voting for the "principled candidate" means voting only for someone in ideological lockstep with you, then the election is hopelessly Balkanized. In the real world we live in, there are only ever two choices. If one of those choices is decidely in your political center of gravity, it is foolish not to vote for him because he's not "perfect." In the real world, you have to pick a few issues that are primary to you, and vote for the best fit.

Amen. Fabulous observations....and I admire you for doing it without alienating everyone like I do! - Thanks