Fred Thompson For 2008

[nra-life-member]

Originally Posted by BizmanUSA

Doesn't it depend on the character and NOT the Actor/Politician?

Yes, I believe Jimmy Carter had some character.. But we don't want that road again..

Originally Posted by thirtyonebravo

none of the candidates are a Reagan. Some may be closer than others to him, but none are.

Roger That..

Originally Posted by Broomhandle

Fred Thompson - no thanks, I'll pass. Too much of the same Republican crap we have now. Thanks for the reminder BizmanUSA.

Yup, Congress (Dems arn't they) are really doing a Bang up Job!

Originally Posted by BizmanUSA

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Come to think of it what is a better place to practice than the acting like you care US Senate?

Yup - Hillary does a nice job there.. Don't you think.. She really cares about us!

[nra-life-member]

Originally Posted by NineseveN

Indeed, the same bang-up job their Republican predecessors did. 6 of one, half-dozen of the other. Fred is probably the most appealing of anyone but Ron Paul, but that's like saying I prefer a knee to the groin to a baseball bat to the knee IMHO.

I actually like Fred, just not as President.

The facts IMHO - is they are ALL the same.. It's about who is not going to screw up our rights..

Clinton was good - except for Brady and a few other things.. Maybe we can find someone who will uphold our rights - not be PC all the time - and really care about what happens to this great country.. We need a Reagan to bring this country back together with one mission..

[JACO126]

dont ya think we outta hear what Fred has to say first, everyone is actin like he is Paul Revere for gods sake...........i dont like any of the candidates either and am hoping Fred is the answer but be honest people his voting record isnt much better than the rest. i'll reserve my vote for later...........

[Slim Pickens]

I guess I'm in the right place, now. After the little blow up on the "OMG Ron Paul for President" thread.

Go, Fred, Go!!!

Slim

[BizmanUSA]

Originally Posted by Slim Pickens

I guess I'm in the right place, now. After the little blow up on the "OMG Ron Paul for President" thread.

Go, Fred, Go!!!

Slim

Hi Slim,

Just wanted to make sure you got familar with Fred and his voting record for us. When you get a chance look back on page 10 of this thread and my Post #94.

It should open your eyes fast than a shot of 'shine!

BizmanUSA

[Slim Pickens]

I've read all that before, I'm not uneducated politically. The GOA says of Fred:

"He is in his own words "against gun control, generally."2 And his voting record shows that to be true, generally. When he voted anti-gun, it was usually to expand federal authority. This is unfortunately consistent with his being a "law and order" conservative (pardon the pun)."

And the NRA calls Fred "a staunch supporter of the second amendment."

I'm okay with his voting record regarding firearms, and that's a first-tier issue for me.

Here's a link to the GOA assessment of Fred, in case you haven't read it:

http://www.gunowners.org/pres08/thompson2.htm

You should also check out the last few pages of the "OMG Ron Paul for President" thread- you'll see that I'm not just a casual political observer.

Slim

[Broomhandle]

Originally Posted by Slim Pickens

I've read all that before, I'm not uneducated politically. The GOA says of Fred:

"He is in his own words "against gun control, generally."2 And his voting record shows that to be true, generally. When he voted anti-gun, it was usually to expand federal authority. This is unfortunately consistent with his being a "law and order" conservative (pardon the pun)."

Oh, I see. He supports gun-control when it "expands federal authority" but opposes it when it is called "gun-control". Well that makes me feel better, I was afraid he was another lying unprincipled politician.

A "Law and order" conservative is what we have now. That means torture, illegal wiretaps, an Attorney General that lies like a rug, and limitless spending to expand the police state. All these are never a good idea, and you can bet the voters will reject any candidate that offers more of the same!

Also your guy is pro Iraq war. I figure that by the time of the general election the US death toll will be close to 6,000 and the cost will be over $1,000,000,000,000*. Any idea how he plans to sell it without getting laughed (or booed) off the stage?

* - It averages $200,000,000 per day.

Disclaimer: I am a Paul supporter.

[BizmanUSA]

Originally Posted by Broomhandle

Oh, I see. He supports gun-control when it "expands federal authority" but opposes it when it is called "gun-control". Well that makes me feel better, I was afraid he was another lying unprincipled politician.

Disclaimer: I am a Paul supporter.

So why do you have to list that this is a Disclaimer: "I am a Paul supporter" ?

If anything you should list it as a Proclaimer!

Your a HOOT - Nice Job!

BizmanUSA

[NineseveN]

I know I started off in this thread attacking Fred (and I was wrong in the manner in which I went about it), but do we need to do this back and forth thing in this thread? If we want to debate the merits of one candidate over another, it would be cleaner, easier and more in-line with staying on topic if one of those that are so looking for the debate would start a thread "Fred Thompson VS Ron Paul" or “true debate about all the candidates” or whatever. I'm a staunch supporter of Ron Paul, but let's not troll or derail the FT threads (or any other) they way RP threads have been nearly derailed. I don't make the rules and I act in no official capacity here, but I'd think that FT supporters are as entitled to supporting their candidate without this kind of dialogue as anyone else is.


Just my 2 schillings, do with them as you will.

[Slim Pickens]

Thanks, 9-7. I didn't want to have to point out to Broomhandle the whole "off-topic" debate that was raging on a certain other thread.

I've already been reprimanded and threatened with a temporary ban for doing the very same thing that Bizman and Broomhandle are doing, so I have little sympathy for them.

Not that I would mind the debate, mind you, but what's good for the goose....

Slim