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AND YES I AM SHOUTING !!!!

Just wish she was on TOP. Aw...can't have everything !!
ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY!

I never saw this coming, but McCain responded to every doubt in the public's eye with this choice. Even the ultra-liberal tree huggers have to reconsider the republican party with her on the ticket.

Not that I wish any ill-will on John McCain, but if he's elected with Palin as VP and something did happen to him while in office, this country could finally get over the hump of having the first woman pres. without out all the freaking opinion surveys ... could a woman be president, would you vote for a woman, can a woman lead the free world when so many societies still view them as second class citizens. Then maybe if a QUALIFIED woman were to make a run at it, the pressure of being the first would be lifted. Of course the football statistic mentality would still be rampant with caveats like "the first elected woman" ... yada yada yada.

Just think, John McCain falls ill and has to resign, Palin becomes president, appoints a black VP, and then also resigns while in office. Kind of that Nixon, Agnew, Ford thing, only with a twist. There, we're finally over the gender and race bullshit, and maybe, just maybe when the next election rolls around, the country might actually focus on politics.

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Palin? What about a female maverick who isn't afraid of dismissing party loyalty by throwing her own under the bus? A woman who chose to give birth despite knowing the child would be born with downs? A woman with one of the highest approval ratings of any governer in the country? My point is that saying she was simply chose to pull Hillary voters is not accurate in my opinion. I believe she appeals to core conservatives with her pro-life, pro-gun stance, she has a history of integrity, and she can appeal to youth and female voters in swing states. This year, Alaska is a swing state.

I see her her not getting the credit she deserves when we simply discard it as "pulling Hillary votes" unless you preface it with an indication that women don't simply vote for women. Palin is one hell of a female role model and I'm excited about the prospect of the first female in the white house being a classy one with views I agree with.
Read my other posts in this thread, I also agreed with others who stated that she makes the McCain ticket much more palatable to the core conservative base of the Republican party. My statement was meant to highlight what I believe to be the tactics and strategy of the McCain campaign, and believe me this is chess game just like every other election. In order to win they need to attract more than the core conservatives, they need other groups as well; I think Palin is a good fit for these other groups of voters that may not previously have considered voting for McCain.
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Read my other posts in this thread, I also agreed with others who stated that she makes the McCain ticket much more palatable to the core conservative base of the Republican party. My statement was meant to highlight what I believe to be the tactics and strategy of the McCain campaign, and believe me this is chess game just like every other election. In order to win they need to attract more than the core conservatives, they need other groups as well; I think Palin is a good fit for these other groups of voters that may not previously have considered voting for McCain.
Yeah, sorry. I clicked on the thread and read your post, not realizing there were about 4 more pages since I left work. I've just been reading a lot of "she was picked to get Hillary voters" by many blogs and I feel they are missing the big picture.
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I'm excited!! This woman not only represents what we stand for here in Pa. with hunting and guns..she represents a lot of Americans in what we all stand for.
I wanted Romney first...a woman second. I didn't know anything about this woman until today..and it's actually a better pick then Romney.

I didn't think this type of Political woman existed!! Thank god!
If you like her check out Sarah Steelman in Missouri. That could be the first all woman ticket EVER and it would get my vote.


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The GOP is stereotypical old white men which do not appeal to the younger voters or female voters. The more they keep putting old white dudes in there, the more "out of touch" they appear (and rightfully so.)
It's funny that you use stereotypes to describe the GOP. I've posted recently about Hip-Hop Republicans as just one example blasting that stereotype out of the water. There are plenty of young republicans and young republican women (Michelle Melkin or however you spell it). The problem with any sterotype is it is usually made out of ignorance (I am not saying this in an insulting way I just mean lack of knowledge).
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McCain's choice has solidified my vote. McCain/Palin will surely be getting my vote this Nov. Listening to the Barack Hussein Obama speech from the other night made me want to puke. There is no way on this green Earth, I am voting for a Obama/O'Biden ticket. And I will try to convince anyone in my family to pull the lever for McCain/Pailn.
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The problem with any sterotype is it is usually made out of ignorance (I am not saying this in an insulting way I just mean lack of knowledge).
It's also quite often, at least partly true, and perpetuated mostly out of spite, intolerance and hatred, but stereotypes are none the less based on some truths. What makes a stereotype ignorant is that, due to the aforementioned hatred and intolerance, people try to apply it to all of a given sample instead of some or even many.
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Good point. I just don't see how the GOP is anymore a rich white man's party any more than the DNC. They are all a bunch of eliteist career politicians.
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Good point. I just don't see how the GOP is anymore a rich white man's party any more than the DNC. They are all a bunch of eliteist career politicians.
Oh, you hit the ball out of the park with that one. 100% agreed. We're really arguing over the image of each party, as you said, in essense, they're pretty much all elitist career politicians beyond the image they project.
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I am not fond of McCain... at all.

I will feel better voting for McCain/Palin simply knowing it could launch Palin as pres in 4 or 8 down the road.
my thoughts exactly. well, they're anna's thoughts, so that makes them mine as well.

i was very worried about having to make a "statement" vote, and vote for barr. the only reason i would have voted for mccain is that he's the only politician who openly said he believes that childhood vaccines are a major factor behind autism. other than that, i don't have too much faith in him. his pick for VP makes me think maybe he's not so clueless. last week, anna said she wasn't voting at all. this year will be the first time she votes republican.
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