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Like I said earlier in this thread we must be reading different sources. She wants creationism taught in schools because "evolution is just a theory." Creationism isnt a theory or even a valid hypothesis. This alone should bar her from running for any office.
Um, talk from your ass much?



"I don't think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

She added that, if elected, she would not push the state Board of Education to add such creation-based alternatives to the state's required curriculum.

Members of the state school board, which sets minimum requirements, are appointed by the governor and confirmed by the Legislature.

"I won't have religion as a litmus test, or anybody's personal opinion on evolution or creationism," Palin said.

Palin has occasionally discussed her lifelong Christian faith during the governor's race but said teaching creationism is nothing she has campaigned about or even given much thought to."

http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/ele...-8243554c.html

Do you have any sources for your point about Palin and Creationism, as well as the quote you attributed to her? I'd enjoy being furnished with them.


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This news isnt positive in my eyes. She is also pro-life. Again not positive to me as it threatens Roe v Wade. Not to mention most pro-lifers are pro death penalty and I hate hypocrisy.
Unless Palin is both pro-life and pro-death penalty, this is invalid. The opinions or hypocrisy of others don't count, as you said, "Why would we count those up, they arent relevant to her." So, is she pro-life? Yes? Is she pro-death penalty? I don't know, have something I can look at that says she is?
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Doesn't she have like 5 kids and a baby with downsyndrom?

This person is going to be the one to take the place of McCain if he dies (and he is NOT young). She's a little pre-occupied don't you think?
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Doesn't she have like 5 kids and a baby with downsyndrom?

This person is going to be the one to take the place of McCain if he dies (and he is NOT young). She's a little pre-occupied don't you think?
According to NPR, 5 Kids, youngest with downs sysdrome, the oldest shipping off to Iraq. What's your point? Bush had twin teenage girls, apparently following in daddy's footsteps, bottle in hand. Think he wasn't preoccupied?
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She is tough on corruption.
I keep reading that, but I never see any examples.
As recently as last year, Palin (pronounced pale-in) was a political outcast. She resigned in January 2004 as head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission after complaining to the office of Governor Frank Murkowski and to state Attorney General Gregg Renkes about ethical violations by another commissioner, Randy Ruedrich, who was also Republican state chairman.
State law barred Palin from speaking out publicly about ethical violations and corruption. But she was vindicated later in 2004 when Ruedrich, who'd been reconfirmed as state chairman, agreed to pay a $12,000 fine for breaking state ethics laws. She became a hero in the eyes of the public and the press, and the bane of Republican leaders.
In 2005, she continued to take on the Republican establishment by joining Eric Croft, a Democrat, in lodging an ethics complaint against Renkes, who was not only attorney general but also a long-time adviser and campaign manager for Murkowski. The governor reprimanded Renkes and said the case was closed. It wasn't. Renkes resigned a few weeks later, and Palin was again hailed as a hero.

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According to NPR, 5 Kids, youngest with downs sysdrome, the oldest shipping off to Iraq. What's your point? Bush had twin teenage girls, apparently following in daddy's footsteps, bottle in hand. Think he wasn't preoccupied?
Are you suggesting that bush was a good president? lol
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She sounds really intelligent.
She is.. consider that she was talking to MTV and you always talk to your audience. Then again, aren't you the Alex Jones leghumper?
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reagan re-incarnate i cant wait to see the polls take off. she is great in every respect.

the "Sarahcuda". should be interesting to see how she handles blowhard fib-eral biden...

my wife has been hinting that she would vote for the BO ticket, up until today... even my father is talkin about gettin registered to vote today. he has never voted, but i think he will this year, just because of Palin...
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Um, talk from your ass much?



"I don't think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

She added that, if elected, she would not push the state Board of Education to add such creation-based alternatives to the state's required curriculum.

Members of the state school board, which sets minimum requirements, are appointed by the governor and confirmed by the Legislature.

"I won't have religion as a litmus test, or anybody's personal opinion on evolution or creationism," Palin said.

Palin has occasionally discussed her lifelong Christian faith during the governor's race but said teaching creationism is nothing she has campaigned about or even given much thought to."

http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/ele...-8243554c.html

Do you have any sources for your point about Palin and Creationism, as well as the quote you attributed to her? I'd enjoy being furnished with them.

Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin wants creationism taught in science classes. In a 2006 gubernatorial debate, the soon-to-be governor of Alaska trotted out the usual creationist education canard: "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of education. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools."

The quote was wrongly attributed by me. When I read it earlier I thought it was in quotes but it's not.



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Unless Palin is both pro-life and pro-death penalty, this is invalid. The opinions or hypocrisy of others don't count, as you said, "Why would we count those up, they arent relevant to her." So, is she pro-life? Yes? Is she pro-death penalty? I don't know, have something I can look at that says she is?
Its not invalid. Being pro-life by itself is not positive news in my eyes. Women have a right to choose. As far as being pro-death I dont know yet but they usually go hand in hand with conservatives.
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Doesn't she have like 5 kids and a baby with downsyndrom?

This person is going to be the one to take the place of McCain if he dies (and he is NOT young). She's a little pre-occupied don't you think?
Wow dude, that has to be one of the most sexist things I've seen posted in awhile. You, like all the rest of us, have absolutely NO IDEA what her personal situation is. And while I could be wrong, I doubt very highly that statement would have been made if she were a man with 5 kids.

Let's take a brief stroll down President's Lane and look at all the presidents that have had 5 or more kids:

John Adams - 5
Thomas Jefferson - 6
William Harrison - 10
John Tyler - 15 (by 2 wives)
Zachary Taylor - 6
Andrew Johnson - 5
Rutherford B. Hayes - 8
James Garfield - 7
Grover Cleveland - 7
Theodore Roosevelt - 6 (by 2 wives)
Franklin Delano Roosevelt - 6
George H. W. Bush - 6

Citation: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0194051.html

I think there's more than a few presidents on that list that did an admirable job.
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As recently as last year, Palin (pronounced pale-in) was a political outcast. She resigned in January 2004 as head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission after complaining to the office of Governor Frank Murkowski and to state Attorney General Gregg Renkes about ethical violations by another commissioner, Randy Ruedrich, who was also Republican state chairman.
State law barred Palin from speaking out publicly about ethical violations and corruption. But she was vindicated later in 2004 when Ruedrich, who'd been reconfirmed as state chairman, agreed to pay a $12,000 fine for breaking state ethics laws. She became a hero in the eyes of the public and the press, and the bane of Republican leaders.
In 2005, she continued to take on the Republican establishment by joining Eric Croft, a Democrat, in lodging an ethics complaint against Renkes, who was not only attorney general but also a long-time adviser and campaign manager for Murkowski. The governor reprimanded Renkes and said the case was closed. It wasn't. Renkes resigned a few weeks later, and Palin was again hailed as a hero.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/851orcjq.asp
So she is tough on corruption that isnt her own? Seriously how can someone be touted as tough on corruption and then be on the brink of being charged themselves? And does one example qualify one as tough?
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