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    Default MD---looking to add "self defense" for CCW--shall issue?

    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/0...un-law-change/

    ANNAPOLIS, Md. (WJZ)–Controversial legislation. It could soon be easier for you to get a gun. Some Maryland lawmakers want to add self-defense as a reason to issue gun permits.

    Lawmakers are pushing for a change, claiming the current gun laws are outdated and don’t serve the public.
    Maryland is known to have some of the strictest gun laws in the country.
    “We’re going to get some of these crazy laws off the books, we’re going to restore rights and we’re going to make this a safer place to live,” said Del. Kevin Hornberger.
    Some lawmakers are now working to wipe out these laws.
    Leong: “Senator, can you tell me why you want to make changes to the current gun laws?”
    “I think it’s really important. Maryland puts a lot of initiative on guarding money. Most of the people that have hand gun permits have it because they carry cash, yet you can’t get a handgun permit because you feel like you’re in need or your family is in danger. And to me, the fact that money is more important than family is ludicrous,” said Senator Wayne Norman, District 35.
    Under current law, wear and carry permits are issued to an adult who has a good and substantial reason to wear, carry, or transport a handgun, such as finding that the permit is necessary as a reasonable precaution against danger.
    This includes being a business owner, armored car guard or for personal protection with documented threats.


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    Default Re: MD---looking to add "self defense" for CCW--shall issue?

    Documented threats? I wonder how many are required. Frequency required? Within what time frame? How long between a "documented" eligible (?) threat coming under scrutiny by a desk-flier and an official letter arriving "allowing" an applicant to defend themselves. And doesn't the desire to carry concealed pretty much seal the inference that self-defense is the intended purpose?

    Freaking fundamental orifices.

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    Default Re: MD---looking to add "self defense" for CCW--shall issue?

    I had two well documented threats and an assistant states attorney who wrote a letter of support on my behalf to get a MD CHL and I was still denied.
    A month later I moved out of that fucking state.

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    Default Re: MD---looking to add "self defense" for CCW--shall issue?

    Look for the desk drawer veto in 5,4,3,2.......

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    Most of the people that have hand gun permits have it because they carry cash, yet you can’t get a handgun permit because you feel like you’re in need or your family is in danger. And to me, the fact that money is more important than family is ludicrous
    Very good point. Goes for NJ too.

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    Default Re: MD---looking to add "self defense" for CCW--shall issue?

    It's not that money is more important. It's that having large sums in a pattern is a potential robbery setting, increasing likelihood of victimization.

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    Default Re: MD---looking to add "self defense" for CCW--shall issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by jthrelf View Post
    Very good point. Goes for NJ too.
    You won't get a license to carry a handgun in Jersey for carrying a lot of cash for business. They'll tell you to hire an armed guard.

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    Default Re: MD---looking to add "self defense" for CCW--shall issue?

    ^and then arrest the armed guard for carrying a firearm.
    Derrion Albert was my Hero.

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    Default Re: MD---looking to add "self defense" for CCW--shall issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by ungawa View Post
    You won't get a license to carry a handgun in Jersey for carrying a lot of cash for business. They'll tell you to hire an armed guard.
    "Armed guard" aka off duty or retired LEO.

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    Default Re: MD---looking to add "self defense" for CCW--shall issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by press1280 View Post
    "Armed guard" aka off duty or retired LEO.
    I have a friend that owns a number of retail businesses, and he keeps his office at his original location location in a bad part of Jersey City.

    Every day a cop comes at lunch time, picks him up, and takes him to the bank to make deposits.

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