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Default Re: Supreme Court Showdown - Ruling On DC Gun Ban Today

To go back to the heart of the matter, let's consider John Locke's view on this subject... I quote profusely, but what else can I do? Locke expressed this idea so clearly and convincingly that it's no wonder he was the philosopher that our founding fathers most admired. The Supreme Nine could do no better than to defer to Locke:

"It cannot be supposed that [the hypothetical contractors] they should intend, had they a power so to do, to give any one or more an absolute arbitrary power over their persons and estates, and put a force into the magistrate's hand to execute his unlimited will arbitrarily upon them; this were to put themselves into a worse condition than the state of nature, wherein they had a liberty to defend their right against the injuries of others, and were upon equal terms of force to maintain it, whether invaded by a single man or many in combination. Whereas by supposing they have given up themselves to the absolute arbitrary power and will of a legislator, they have disarmed themselves, and armed him to make a prey of them when he pleases..." -John Locke, Second Treatise on Civil Government

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Big Guantinimo decision just out, 5-4 in favor of detainees...

Could today be the day?
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Not today. All opinions are now out for the day.
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Link please?
here is a link to a news story on the gitmo ruling...not to the actual decision, though.

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here is a link to a news story on the gitmo ruling...not to the actual decision, though.

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Good enough, thanks.

And finally. I've never been a supporter of whats been done down there.
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Good enough, thanks.

And finally. I've never been a supporter of whats been done down there.
This should probably be in another thread but I agree. The Constitution doesn't have loopholes. It wasn't written as a guideline. It was written as the law of the land and applicable to anyone on US soil or under US detainment.

We should be utterly ashamed that we have people imprisoned for 6 years without charge or trial. It boggles my mind that some people can be so gung-ho about their right to bear arms but so indifferent to the right of due process.
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