New to Monroe/Wayne

[God's Country]

You'll need either a Pa drivers lic. or a county ID which means you'll need to have some type of established residency.

I'm not sure how it will work because you have land in two counties. My best guess is whichever county your house is in. You'll need to apply to the county sheriff of whichever county you "live".


http://www.co.monroe.pa.us/judicial/...ialNav=|34328|

http://www.co.wayne.pa.us/?pageid=12

I guess you'll need to call to figure it out. I'm not sure how Wayne is, but IMO Monroe sheriff Todd Martin is an Ass and puts an unrequired burden on new residents to obtain a LTCF.

Good luck

Oh and, please, please, please, assimilate into Pa culture and not be one of the NYC residents that feels like they’re doing PA a favor by living here.
If it's an hour to Wal-Mart accept it.

[CHEMICAL]

Originally Posted by jcabin

AFAIK Monroe country you can shoot on your property as much as you want.

That's what the cops have told me in two seperate encounters.

As long as you're not in close quarters and disturbing other people at unreasonable hours you're good to go.

It appears this guy has a ton of property so I'm sure he'll be fine.

according to the state police there is a backstop requirement of some sort, can't exactly remember what it was, been a while since ive spoken with them.

[Strapped]

Welcome to the USA!!!

If you ever want some shooting company just ask, I have plenty of toys and dont mind sharring with the class

[Steve in PA]

Originally Posted by CHEMICAL

according to the state police there is a backstop requirement of some sort, can't exactly remember what it was, been a while since ive spoken with them.

There is no such requirement. The PA has some restrictions but that is for gamelands and other property, not private. Common sense says you should have an adequate back stop though.

Sec. 2507. Restrictions on shooting.

(a) General rule. - It is unlawful for any person during the open season for the taking of any big game other than turkey to:

(1) Shoot at any mark or target other than legal game or wildlife with a firearm of any kind or a bow and arrow.

(2) Discharge at any time any firearm or release an arrow at random in the general direction of any game or wildlife not plainly visible for the purpose of routing or frightening them.

(3) Discharge at any time any firearm or release an arrow at random or in any other manner contrary to this section.

(b) Exceptions. - This section shall not be construed to apply in any manner to:

(1) The discharge of any firearm for the sole purpose of signaling for aid or assistance while in distress.

(2) The use of rifle, pistol or archery ranges owned, leased or maintained by a State or Federal military or police organization or by any regularly organized rifle, pistol, shotgun or archery range, shooting association or club while shooting at a regularly established and properly safeguarded range or to any public shooting exhibition properly safeguarded and conducted under the direction of any organization for the promotion of marksmanship.

(3) The discharge of a muzzle-loading firearm at a proper target for the purpose of safe transportation of the muzzle-loaded firearm.

(4) Shooting at a properly constructed target or mark or a dead tree protected by a natural or artificial barrier so that the ball, bullet or arrow cannot travel more than 15 yards beyond the target aimed at, after making due allowance for deflection in any direction not to exceed an angle of 45 degrees. Target shooting shall only be lawful when it is done:

(i) Upon property owned by the shooter or by a guest of the property owner.

(ii) Within 200 yards of the camp or other headquarters where the person shooting is quartered or is an invited guest or visitor.

(c) Penalty. - A violation of this section is a summary offense of the fourth degree.

[Pa. Patriot]

Originally Posted by jcabin

Indeed you need to be a resident of your county for atleast 60 days.at.

No such requirement for an LTCF

To obtain a *resident* Pa. LTCF, the OP will need a Pa. state issued ID. IN order to get one (pa driv lic. PA. ID card) you must prove residency with the issuing authority. (penndot)

[Steve in PA]

Originally Posted by frankie

Wouldn't that be a town law and not a county law? I am in Stroud Twp but have never inquired about it. I would also have to think that you would need a little property to shoot on also. Do you know of a minimum property size to shoot in in Monroe County?

It would be a city, town, borough or township ordinance.

There is no set amount of property needed.

And as far as I know, PSP does not enforce ordinances because there are so many and so varied as opposed to the normal crime and vehicle code.

Just because its not enforced today, doesn't mean it won't be enforced tomorrow. I would still make sure you are 100% legal to avoid any problems.

[Tootie]

Originally Posted by Steve in PA

There is no such requirement. The PA has some restrictions but that is for gamelands and other property, not private. Common sense says you should have an adequate back stop though.

Sec. 2507. Restrictions on shooting.

(a) General rule. - It is unlawful for any person during the open season for the taking of any big game other than turkey to:

(1) Shoot at any mark or target other than legal game or wildlife with a firearm of any kind or a bow and arrow.

(2) Discharge at any time any firearm or release an arrow at random in the general direction of any game or wildlife not plainly visible for the purpose of routing or frightening them.

(3) Discharge at any time any firearm or release an arrow at random or in any other manner contrary to this section.

(b) Exceptions. - This section shall not be construed to apply in any manner to:

(1) The discharge of any firearm for the sole purpose of signaling for aid or assistance while in distress.

(2) The use of rifle, pistol or archery ranges owned, leased or maintained by a State or Federal military or police organization or by any regularly organized rifle, pistol, shotgun or archery range, shooting association or club while shooting at a regularly established and properly safeguarded range or to any public shooting exhibition properly safeguarded and conducted under the direction of any organization for the promotion of marksmanship.

(3) The discharge of a muzzle-loading firearm at a proper target for the purpose of safe transportation of the muzzle-loaded firearm.

(4) Shooting at a properly constructed target or mark or a dead tree protected by a natural or artificial barrier so that the ball, bullet or arrow cannot travel more than 15 yards beyond the target aimed at, after making due allowance for deflection in any direction not to exceed an angle of 45 degrees. Target shooting shall only be lawful when it is done:

(i) Upon property owned by the shooter or by a guest of the property owner.

(ii) Within 200 yards of the camp or other headquarters where the person shooting is quartered or is an invited guest or visitor.

(c) Penalty. - A violation of this section is a summary offense of the fourth degree.

Yeahhhhhhh, they don't consider my neighbors house a adequate back stop

Unless you're within city limits (stroud, east stoud, mt pokey) I'm pretty sure you can target shoot on your property. Make sure your direction of fire is not aiming directly at a house (in case your backstop fails) and you should be good to go. We had some tart that over shot his backstop constantly and was grazing the garden shop with bullets. Needless to say he was told he could no longer target shoot on his property.

[jcabin]

Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot

No such requirement for an LTCF

To obtain a *resident* Pa. LTCF, the OP will need a Pa. state issued ID. IN order to get one (pa driv lic. PA. ID card) you must prove residency with the issuing authority. (penndot)

AFAIK it's another "requirement" of monroe county.
just like they "require" you to know your references for atleast a year and they must be -working residents- of monroe county.

[dc dalton]

Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot

No such requirement for an LTCF

To obtain a *resident* Pa. LTCF, the OP will need a Pa. state issued ID. IN order to get one (pa driv lic. PA. ID card) you must prove residency with the issuing authority. (penndot)

Question is will he be applying in Monroe or Wayne (in other words what address will the soon to be built house have)

Because if it's Monroe he has that lovely little (illegal) rule they have about bringing a copy of his local tax return from Berkheimer as his second form of identification .... there's the big 'gotcha'

[tsafa]

Originally Posted by Strapped

Welcome to the USA!!!

If you ever want some shooting company just ask, I have plenty of toys and dont mind sharring with the class

Thanks! Let me get a bit settled in and finish up the construction, then we'll schedule some play time.

Originally Posted by God's Country

but IMO Monroe sheriff ...... is an Ass and puts an unrequired burden on new residents to obtain a LTCF.

What sort of burden?

Originally Posted by dc dalton

Question is will he be applying in Monroe or Wayne (in other words what address will the soon to be built house have)

Because if it's Monroe he has that lovely little (illegal) rule they have about bringing a copy of his local tax return from Berkheimer as his second form of identification .... there's the big 'gotcha'

The house in in Monroe. The ground was more suitable for putting a house on. The Wayne side is more rocky but I might put a small cottage on there down the road and rent it out to weekly hunters and skiers.
I did not understand that part about "local tax return from Berkheimer"?. Is this an city income tax? Not a problem, end of the year is coming and I would rather pay income tax to PA rather then NY. Good thing you mentioned it. Any further info you can give me on this would be appreciated since I do my own taxes.