Its Time For PA To Get With The 21st Century...

[XD40coyote]

Maryland regs taken from DNR website...

It is unlawful to hunt with an automatic firearm capable of firing a series of shots with one continuous pull of the trigger.

Rifles used for deer and bear hunting must use ammunition developing a muzzle energy of at least 1,200 foot pounds.

Firearms used for deer and bear hunting may not have an ammunition clip loaded with more than 8 cartridges or bullets. If a clip has the capacity to hold more than 8 rounds, the clip does not have to be physically blocked, but no more than 8 cartridges or bullets may be loaded.

Rifles may be used to hunt forest game (except turkey during the spring season), upland game (except dove and woodcock), crow, nutria, woodchuck and certain furbearing species.

It is only lawful to hunt with ammunition of soft point (expanding) construction. All military, full metal jacketed, incendiary or tracer bullets are prohibited.

Breech-loading rifles may not be used to hunt deer in Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Calvert, Caroline, Charles, Frederick (in that portion of Frederick County lying south of a line beginning at....

( and so on- these other counties and areas are slug gun only for deer)

Handgun Regulations
Modern and muzzleloading handguns may be used to hunt forest game (handgun hunting for turkey only during the fall season), upland game (except dove and woodcock), coyote, fisher, fox, nutria, opossum, raccoon, skunk, and woodchuck.

Modern handguns may be used to hunt deer only in those counties where the use of a breech-loading rifle for deer hunting is permitted with the exception that modern handguns may be used to hunt deer throughout Frederick County. Any modern handgun used for deer and bear hunting must have a barrel length of 6 inches or more and use ammunition which produces a muzzle energy of 700 foot-pounds or more.

Notice how nothing is said that semi autos are not allowed. I guess if you want to hunt deer with an AK, and shoot groundhogs with a Glock, Maryland is the place... ( the irony is a killer)

[CapnOfMyFate]

I voted "yes" because there are no profound functional differences between a bolt/lever/pump action longarm or a semi-automatic longarm when they're limited to a capacity of few rounds for the purpose of hunting. As long as the caliber and bullet (i.e. HP, JSP) is humane for taking the respective game you're hunting, there is no reason why it's "wrong" or "immoral" for someone to hunt with something like an AK or an SKS.

[wamba]

I don't care if you hunt with a cannon, all I would like is something to hunt. I've harped on this before. I don't don't care if you hunt with an uzi. I would just like this worthless Pa. Game Commission to adjust bag limits to the various local conditions. I would like this worthless Pa. Game Commission to protect access to it's worthless game lands. I would like someone, anyone selected for the worthless Pa. Game Commission to care about the public hunter. Maybe just a little bit, please. Every year more people stop hunting. Ask yourself why?

I apologize for ranting off topic, but just got back from a day in the Pa. woods.

[1911shooter]

Originally Posted by wamba

I don't care if you hunt with a cannon, all I would like is something to hunt. I've harped on this before. I don't don't care if you hunt with an uzi. I would just like this worthless Pa. Game Commission to adjust bag limits to the various local conditions. I would like this worthless Pa. Game Commission to protect access to it's worthless game lands. I would like someone, anyone selected for the worthless Pa. Game Commission to care about the public hunter. Maybe just a little bit, please. Every year more people stop hunting. Ask yourself why?

I apologize for ranting off topic, but just got back from a day in the Pa. woods.

Oh boy you beeter watch our locale PGC lover will be here to tell you how wrong you are and how right he is and he is the only one who knows what he is talking about.

[knight0334]

Originally Posted by wamba

I don't care if you hunt with a cannon, all I would like is something to hunt. I've harped on this before. I don't don't care if you hunt with an uzi. I would just like this worthless Pa. Game Commission to adjust bag limits to the various local conditions. I would like this worthless Pa. Game Commission to protect access to it's worthless game lands. I would like someone, anyone selected for the worthless Pa. Game Commission to care about the public hunter. Maybe just a little bit, please. Every year more people stop hunting. Ask yourself why?

I apologize for ranting off topic, but just got back from a day in the Pa. woods.

I kinda agree...

Back when I was a kid there were more deer in the fields in the evenings than you can count, 6-12 point bucks everywhere.. ...now you're lucky to see a buck and we have so many doe that your arm would fall off before you could beat them all to death with a club. Doe everywhere.. A lot go without breeding each season because the few bucks. I'm at the point now I'll let a buck go and only fill my doe tag.

[matty70]

Originally Posted by knight0334

I kinda agree...

Back when I was a kid there were more deer in the fields in the evenings than you can count, 6-12 point bucks everywhere.. ...now you're lucky to see a buck and we have so many doe that your arm would fall off before you could beat them all to death with a club. Doe everywhere.. A lot go without breeding each season because the few bucks. I'm at the point now I'll let a buck go and only fill my doe tag.

You think you got problems???? You don't know how good you have it. In the past 20 years I lived in Screw Jersey I saw 1 Buck!!! YES ONE!!!! ONE!!! did I say ONE??????? O....N.....E....!!!!!!!!! I've lived in PA for 3 years now and If I see less than 2 bucks a week its a sllllllllloooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww week! The only 4 pointer I've seen in PA was because a car hit him and knocked off his other side!!!! JHC!!! I guess I'm lucky!!! BTW stay the hell out of Berks County LOL!

[arjohnson]

Originally Posted by Dredly

in PA rifle season the normal way to hunt is by putting on a drive and pushing deer towards where people are sitting and waiting for them to come. There are to many hunters in PA and not enough land to safely hunt to sit in a tree stand and just wait. Plus with only having 2 days for most people to hunt (2 saturdays) it makes it much more dangerous to be out in the woods.

What you just said here has absolutely nothing to do with the OP's questions. It does'nt matter what kind of guns are used, idiots are still going to be idiots.

As for the question at hand, I voted yes. In all honesty a semi is much more controlable if follow up shots are need as there is less recoil, hands never have to be repositioned which will make for faster and more accurate follow up shots.

There is absolutely no way a semi is anymore or less dangerous than than any non semi gun.

You also keep insisting how dangerous it is to be in the woods during gun season, when the fact is most deaths or injurys are self inflicted, falling from a treestand, dieing from a heart attack, or your in experianced hunting partner shooting you cause he does'nt know how to properly handle, load or unload a gun. It is very rare to be hit with a stray bullet, better chance of dieing from the others I mentioned.

Another on the plus side of a semi is the ability to load and unload alot safer than lets say a lever action gun.

[bob308]

i voted yes. i was told the reason pa does not allow semi's is because they think you are too stupid to take care of one.

[Yoder]

I would like to see somebody time themselves shooting a semi .308 vs a pump .308 off hand and as fast as you can shoot still hitting the target. I'll bet it's not that much difference. I have a 30-06 pump and an AR-10 if I get time I'll have to try it and let you all know the results.

[arjohnson]

Originally Posted by Yoder

I would like to see somebody time themselves shooting a semi .308 vs a pump .308 off hand and as fast as you can shoot still hitting the target. I'll bet it's not that much difference. I have a 30-06 pump and an AR-10 if I get time I'll have to try it and let you all know the results.

I don't think it matters how fast you can shoot either one, it's which one can you get back on target with faster and make the shot, I would bet the semi is much easier to do it with.