Tweeking an AK for performance?

[wjkuleck]

Originally Posted by scoutjoe

I have to throw my hat in the ring here on this one.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=117828025

Lapua ammo is "match" grade.....or the internet has lied to me in the past (possible). That being said it is difficult to find, at best.

So..I can't really afford to prove you wrong

I once entreated Jeff Hoffman at Black Hills to assemble some high-quality 7.62x39mm. His response, to his credit a quite logical response, was that it appeared that the majority of AK owners were more interested in quantity (cents per round) than quality. This was after I scored a few boxes of a special run of 7.62x54R (no, he's not making any more, don't ask unless you want 100,000 rounds at a time), so I was feeling hopeful.

Lapua is very high quality, perhaps not up there with Hornady A-Max, but a long way from even Winchester 7.62x39mm.

Good catch, I learned something!

Best regards,

Walt

[vatopa]

I've got a Russian AKM

Do you mean a Saiga rifle? Maybe converted to look like an akm?

I do not believe there are any true Russian made akm's in this country. At least there are very very few.

Plesae let me know, I am very interested in Russian weapons.

[Jackal]

Originally Posted by vatopa

Do you mean a Saiga rifle? Maybe converted to look like an akm?

I do not believe there are any true Russian made akm's in this country. At least there are very very few.

Plesae let me know, I am very interested in Russian weapons.

No, I don't have a Russian made AKM that was imported into the US. I have actually never seen any. You are correct, it is a Saiga. If you are familiar with them then you know they are made by Ezmash. It is a modernized, stamped receiver. The parts I have in their are made in America.

Barrel (chromed), FSB, receiver, are all Russian. I wish I could get my hands on an authentic one also, would be way above my paygrade even if they could be had in this country. IMO, the Saigas are the most authentic you can get. At least its the only way to get a Russian receiver that I am aware of.

[pacomdiver]

a double hook trigger will improve the trigger pull considerably

[RaisedByWolves]

The thing I like least about the AK is the barrel crown. Sure the barrel is whippy, but this affects follow up shots and if your looking for accuracy then fast follow ups should be avoided with almost any rifle. The barrel "Clown" in these barrels is horrible and could affect accuracy a great deal.



Seriously, I have seen many brands of Air rifles with better crowns, Improving the crown on your barrel would be my 1st step.


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[Jackal]

Originally Posted by RaisedByWolves

The thing I like least about the AK is the barrel crown. Sure the barrel is whippy, but this affects follow up shots and if your looking for accuracy then fast follow ups should be avoided with almost any rifle. The barrel "Clown" in these barrels is horrible and could affect accuracy a great deal.






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Hmm. How is the barrel crown horrible? I don't think I understand. Also, the flex of the barrel has subsided by the time you fire your next shot. So it affects every shot equally regardless of how fast or slow you are pulling the trigger.

[RaisedByWolves]

The barrel crown on these is a total farce. Yeah, the barrel ends and this is what we call the crown, but there was no thought given to this area of the rifle other than "How cost effective can we make it". If you compare the crown on your AK to those of almost any other rifle, then compare those to a target rifle, youll see what I mean.



As far as the whipping goes, the bullet is long gone from the first shot before the gun recoils, and its the recoil that causes the whipping.


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[larry0071]

Is the whip still effecting the barrel during the next shot? Like, with a full auto I can see it happening, but your finger speed on a semi-auto... I can't see the barrel still flexing about by the time you get to pulling the trigger again.

[archangel689]

Originally Posted by Jackal

It has a folding ACE stock and a Tapco G2. I didn't realize how awesome the G2 was until I fired someone else's run of the mill AK and there was no comparison.

I heard the Texas AK triggers were even better, I'm getting those put in my saiga 12.

[RaisedByWolves]

Originally Posted by larry0071

Is the whip still effecting the barrel during the next shot? Like, with a full auto I can see it happening, but your finger speed on a semi-auto... I can't see the barrel still flexing about by the time you get to pulling the trigger again.

At this point you would be down to Harmonics rather than whip.

Harmonics may play a small role depending on how fast you reacquired the target, but it would have a negligible effect at most in this case. You are correct, Whip has the greatest affect when in full auto. People see the video and think that if the BBL is bouncing around to that extent that the AK is just crap altogether and dont take into account the fact that the bullet is out of the BBL before this is all going on.


Harmonics would affect accuracy +/- .5" at 100yrds, whip could be +/- 1' give or take.



I would really like to see a before/after comparison of the same AK with a stock and modified crown. Would this turn it into a tack driver? Doubt it. But you may go from 3" groups to 2" or less at 100yrds. I plan on giving my RPK a decent crown, but it will have to be done before I press it home in the reciever so I wont be able to compare.


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