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Old September 4th, 2008
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Default Removing a parkerized coating.

M&P's come in one flavor, Black. I have been looking at the work of Dan Burwell, and he has a few custom M&P's with fully polished barrels. I went to my gunsmith today (to drop off a .22) and asked him about polishing the barrel, he said he did not know how thick the coating is and removing too much could affect the tolerances. I personally could not see this as a problem in a locked breach automatic.

So, 1. will removing the coating affect the operation of the gun, it's reliability, or it's accuracy?

2. If not, how hard is it to remove?/ Can it be removed? I've polished lots of bare metal gun parts but have never tried to strip parkerizing.

I have various cloth buffing wheels and compounds ranging from rough cleaning to high polish.


Here's some of his work. I'd like to polish the barrel, extractor, take down lever, and slide release(s)

http://www.burwellgunsmithing.com/ga...ery/index.html

I know it may make the slide release slick, but I'm more of a slingshot kind of guy.

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http://www.evaporust.com/evaporust.html
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Default Re: Removing a parkerized coating.

Some guys break it down then oil it up and oven bake it on Springfields parkerized finish.
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Evaporust is effective on oxides like rust and blueing. Regardless of what the Evaporust literature says about removing Parkerizing and phosphate (same thing), IMO and experience a deoxide agent will not work on a phosphate. Phosphate is NOT an oxide.

I'm a partner in a metal finishing business and we apply zinc and manganese phosphate. It's a acid process that first removes rust, then lays down the zinc or manganese phosphate. Acids and even strong bases don't remove the phosphate, but strong bases will discolor the phosphate to an OD green-brown color. It's still there.

Phos must be removed mechanically, either by abrasive blasting or by abrasive buffing/polishing. I've polished phosphated firearm internals with rubber abrasive polishing tips and wheels and felt wheels loaded with compound, and had no issue.

Also IMO and experience, the phosphate layer is typically 500 to 1300 mg/sq ft in mass, which translates to around 0.0002" to 0.0005" thickness. Again IMO, removing a half thousandth of phos finish will not have a measurable effect on the function of the weapon.

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Default Re: Removing a parkerized coating.

imo, if it were me id just polish it off, but i dont know enough to reccomend that to someone else...

but if it is as noah said, only 2-5 tenths, i concurr, ireally doubt that much would affect the reliability or performance of the weapon. the manuf tolerances prob arent that tight.
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If I can get this XDSC sold the STI I'm looking to buy has a polished/match barrel...I really like the contrast. PICS REQUIRED if you get it done!
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SWEET!

I did a small "test area" to see how easy the coating was removed, and how much it would shine up. The coating comes off easily with the right compound, and it's shining like a new fuckin' dime.

I just haven't decided if I want it pimped out, or all black and evil.
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SWEET!

I did a small "test area" to see how easy the coating was removed, and how much it would shine up. The coating comes off easily with the right compound, and it's shining like a new fuckin' dime.

I just haven't decided if I want it pimped out, or all black and evil.
I say pimp one out, and then buy another.

That's what guns are there for:
Clinging to.
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Boosting the economy.
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I did a small "test area" to see how easy the coating was removed, and how much it would shine up. The coating comes off easily with the right compound, and it's shining like a new fuckin' dime.

I just haven't decided if I want it pimped out, or all black and evil.

pimp that bitch, yo.
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pimp that bitch, yo.
Here's some pics of what it would look like.

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