Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association

Go Back   Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association Discussion Forum > Discussion > General

Notices

General General firearm-related talk that does not fit into any of the other forums.

PAFOA Sponsors Businesses that provide financial and technical support to PAFOA. PAFOA Shopping Partners A percentage of all sales made through these partner links goes to PAFOA.
Arms Dealer Logo

Arms Dealer — Free Firearm Classifieds, Gun Shop & Shooting Range Reviews

Arms Dealer is your one-stop shop for free firearm classifieds, gun shop & shooting range reviews.

Join today to start buying, selling and reviewing!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old September 17th, 2007, 02:10 AM
Mity2's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location:
State College, Pennsylvania
(Centre County)
Posts: 4,199
Rep Power: 44060
Mity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Mity2 Send a message via Yahoo to Mity2
Default pitted bore?

I have recently aquired an WWII rifle.
It was my falut that I did not inspect bore throughly enough, but up on cleaning and degreasing, I've noticed that bore is pitted. But rifling is intact. and no obstruction in bore.

Can gun with pitted bore shoot without an issue 0ther then possible poor accuracy?

I bought it as a collecter. It really makes no difference even if I can't safely shoot it as i had no intention shooting it in the first place, but would bum me out if I can't shoot it if i chose to do so...

__________________
Audemus jura nostra defendere
Reply With Quote

Thanks for visiting our forum! If you ever plan to return you should consider quickly registering for a forum account, especially if you're in Pennsylvania. It's simple to do and best of all free. Once registered you'll be able to participate in our discussions and keep up to date on issues important to Pennsylvania firearm owners!

  #2 (permalink)  
Old September 17th, 2007, 10:41 AM
Active Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location:
Dingmans Ferry, Pennsylvania
(Pike County)
Posts: 116
Rep Power: 12
secretbard is just really nicesecretbard is just really nicesecretbard is just really nicesecretbard is just really nicesecretbard is just really nice
Default Re: pitted bore?

The crown and the rifling look good and that is where accuracy can really be affected. As far as the pitting, I also have a Garand with what appears to be one pit close to the bore muzzle, but it hasn't detracted from my accuracy one bit. From the pictures, it doesn't look all that bad. What mil-surplus rifle is it?
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old September 17th, 2007, 11:04 AM
Mity2's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location:
State College, Pennsylvania
(Centre County)
Posts: 4,199
Rep Power: 44060
Mity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Mity2 Send a message via Yahoo to Mity2
Default Re: pitted bore?

Arisaka Type99. Nagoya 6th series rifle, a fairly early "transition" type.
I bought it mainly due to intact mum.
It won't make huge difference to me since I bought it as collecter - My Arisaka Type 38 Cavery rifle, which I had it for over 10 years, i've shot it 4 shots out of it.
makes me feel bummed out, since everywhere else on the gun is in decent shape. Even perfect maching number.
But if gun is too junk to shoot - whether I'm gonna shoot or not - suddenly makes it look like i paid too much you know?

Bottom is the Type 99. Top is the Type 38 Cavery
__________________
Audemus jura nostra defendere

Last edited by Mity2; September 17th, 2007 at 11:22 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old September 17th, 2007, 06:11 PM
Mity2's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location:
State College, Pennsylvania
(Centre County)
Posts: 4,199
Rep Power: 44060
Mity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Mity2 Send a message via Yahoo to Mity2
Default Re: pitted bore?

ANyone else?
__________________
Audemus jura nostra defendere
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old September 17th, 2007, 10:16 PM
PA Rifleman's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location:
..- -. .. - . -.. ... - .- - . ...
Posts: 2,823
Rep Power: 55449
PA Rifleman has a reputation beyond reputePA Rifleman has a reputation beyond reputePA Rifleman has a reputation beyond reputePA Rifleman has a reputation beyond reputePA Rifleman has a reputation beyond reputePA Rifleman has a reputation beyond reputePA Rifleman has a reputation beyond reputePA Rifleman has a reputation beyond reputePA Rifleman has a reputation beyond reputePA Rifleman has a reputation beyond reputePA Rifleman has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: pitted bore?

I'd be more concerned with headspace. If HS is okay and the bore isn't obstructed, it should be okay to shoot. I still have a W.W.II M1911 >link< that's pitted worse than your rifle. It shoots -very- well.

I had a Type 99 many years ago, looking for 7.7 Jap ammo or brass got old, fast. Since it was a last-ditch, I sold it. Shot okay, though.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old September 18th, 2007, 12:44 AM
762xIan's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location:
Bethel, Pennsylvania
(Berks County)
Age: 45
Posts: 1,946
Rep Power: 118062
762xIan has a reputation beyond repute762xIan has a reputation beyond repute762xIan has a reputation beyond repute762xIan has a reputation beyond repute762xIan has a reputation beyond repute762xIan has a reputation beyond repute762xIan has a reputation beyond repute762xIan has a reputation beyond repute762xIan has a reputation beyond repute762xIan has a reputation beyond repute762xIan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: pitted bore?

Clean the hell out of it and shoot it and see what you get.

My buddy has a Mauser with a bore like a sewer pipe....decent enough accuracy at 100 yards 2-3 MOA..no keyholes.
__________________
"Disperse you Rebels! Damn you! Throw down your Arms and Disperse!" British Major Pitcairn at Lexington April 19, 1775

"Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things" Marvin Heemeyer
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old September 18th, 2007, 03:45 PM
Mity2's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location:
State College, Pennsylvania
(Centre County)
Posts: 4,199
Rep Power: 44060
Mity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Mity2 Send a message via Yahoo to Mity2
Default Re: pitted bore?

i figured since there is no obstruction, its okay to shoot. Rifling is still there, so i'm thinking Keyhole isn't gonna be an issue either.
I thought because of pitting, properant pressure would leak around it, and projectile would get stuck.
__________________
Audemus jura nostra defendere
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old September 18th, 2007, 03:49 PM
Grand Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location:
SEPA, Pennsylvania
Posts: 2,150
Rep Power: 74997
aubie515 has a reputation beyond reputeaubie515 has a reputation beyond reputeaubie515 has a reputation beyond reputeaubie515 has a reputation beyond reputeaubie515 has a reputation beyond reputeaubie515 has a reputation beyond reputeaubie515 has a reputation beyond reputeaubie515 has a reputation beyond reputeaubie515 has a reputation beyond reputeaubie515 has a reputation beyond reputeaubie515 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: pitted bore?

What type of "accuracy" are you looking from a WWII era weapon? If you want true accuracy go with Finn M39, Swiss K31, Swede 96.

You could clean the heck out of the barrel to try minimize the pitting. Take it to a local smith and have him/her look at the rifle.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old September 18th, 2007, 04:16 PM
Mity2's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location:
State College, Pennsylvania
(Centre County)
Posts: 4,199
Rep Power: 44060
Mity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond reputeMity2 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Mity2 Send a message via Yahoo to Mity2
Default Re: pitted bore?

Quote:
Originally Posted by aubie515 View Post
What type of "accuracy" are you looking from a WWII era weapon?
? Accuracy of some WWII rifles were right up par with modern rifle.
I've seen Type 99 sniper shoots ring around modern gun. As well as Mossin Nagant sniper.
Probrem with most WWII rifle is the non free floating barrel. It shoots great, until barrel heats up. Then suddenly starts to shoot all over the place
I expect well taken care of WWII type 99 rifle to shoot at least
<3-4" @ 100yds on open sight. at least thats what my Type38 does. But bore on my 98 is spotless tho..
like i said it Really it doesn't matter if it shoot great or shoot good. As long as it shoots okay. if not, makes me feel like i got crap deal.
__________________
Audemus jura nostra defendere

Last edited by Mity2; September 18th, 2007 at 04:29 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old September 18th, 2007, 06:05 PM
VeryPrivate's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location:
Newport News, Virginia
Posts: 344
Rep Power: 9
VeryPrivate is on a distinguished road
Default Re: pitted bore?

You could try fire lapping the bore. It will smooth out some of the pits.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Laser Bore Sights RocketFoot General 8 July 24th, 2007 12:37 PM
Pitted slide worth refinish? junyo General 2 April 12th, 2007 08:49 PM
Homemade Electronic Bore Cleaner??? mtscott General 1 April 12th, 2007 08:06 PM
Hoppes Bore Snakes .223 & .30cal Jay5oh General 4 March 1st, 2007 09:12 PM
Bore Sight Advice Shrubdog General 3 February 21st, 2007 07:12 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Marketing Services provided by MergeMedia.
Local gun shops | Local shooting ranges | Philadelphia Shooting Ranges | Philadelphia Gun Shops | Pittsburgh Shooting Ranges | Pittsburgh Gun Shops