Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association
HB2011 and HB1243 Updates

So far, there hasn't been a 2nd Consideration vote on either of these bills. WE NEED TO KEEP UP THE PRESSURE, and continue to contact our legislators - ask them to tell House leadership to bring these bills to a vote! Ask them to vote YES on HB2011, and NO on the Universal Background Check amendment. In addition, the FOAC is requesting support for an amendment proposed to HB1243 (Mental Health Records for Firearms Purchases) that, if passed, will allow HB1243 to restore firearm rights to those who have recovered from a mental illness.


For more information and updates on these efforts,
CLICK HERE

For legislator contact information,
CLICK HERE


Go Back   Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association Discussion Forum > Discussion > General

Notices

General General firearm-related talk that does not fit into any of the other forums.

PAFOA Sponsors Businesses that provide financial and technical support to PAFOA. PAFOA Shopping Partners A percentage of all sales made through these partner links goes to PAFOA.
Arms Dealer Logo

Arms Dealer — Free Firearm Classifieds, Gun Shop & Shooting Range Reviews

Arms Dealer is your one-stop shop for free firearm classifieds, gun shop & shooting range reviews.

Join today to start buying, selling and reviewing!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old November 29th, 2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location:
phoenixville, Pennsylvania
(Chester County)
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 0
footballfan is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Pics denial

they had the last four that is all he needed. As to one of the "bad guys" my family member is one of them and is currently in jail where they belong.
Reply With Quote

Thanks for visiting our forum! If you ever plan to return you should consider quickly registering for a forum account, especially if you're in Pennsylvania. It's simple to do and best of all free. Once registered you'll be able to participate in our discussions and keep up to date on issues important to Pennsylvania firearm owners!

  #12 (permalink)  
Old November 29th, 2009
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location:
Home, Pennsylvania
(Luzerne County)
Posts: 76
Rep Power: 0
NEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to beholdNEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to beholdNEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to beholdNEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to beholdNEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to beholdNEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to beholdNEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Pics denial

I went through this back on August 3rd....

http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-ope...-plz-help.html

The process is this:

First and Foremost:
State law now provides that the Challenge form must be submitted to the PICS Challenge Unit within 30 days of the date the individual is denied.



If you were "DENIED": REMEMBER THEY HAVE 60 DAYS TO RESPOND TO YOU SO IT MAY TAKE A WHILE

-You dont have to wait for any papers from the attempted firearms sale(ie. any paperwork you filled out at the gunshow). All you need is the Pics Challenge Form SP4-197(found here
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal...&css=L2&mode=2. )

-You simpily fill out this form correctly and send it in to Harrisburg. I sent my challenge form USPS Priority Express($14) so I know they received it and it was there the next morning with tracking #'s.

-After about a week I called in and told them who I was and they said my forms were Received and being researched.

-Week two I received a letter from PICS.. hoping it was the reversal letter.. it wasn't... it was a letter telling me why i was denied and it was still being researched and any info i had may help the situation. The paper said I was denied because of a Disorderly Conduct I had recieved in State College at a party a year before.

-After getting the letter I immediately called PICS and told them it was just a disorderly conduct for loud music and partying in State College, PA...lol whoops .. PICS said to simpily put in writing what we had just talked about and mail it in (again Priority Express for my own sake) and there shouldnt be any problems getting it reversed.. But they couldnt guarantee me anything.

-I was kind of pissed knowing it was just a disorderly conduct.. and Disorderly Conduct is not in the denial list!!!!!!!!!!!! But they are PICS... they can do whatever that want...

-So i did as was told(mailing in our phone conversation) and two weeks after that (33 Days after my original Denial) I Received my "Letter of Reversal" THAK GOD Which i take to every firearms purchase I make... and my local dealer told me to Laminate that sucker and NEVER lose it... Anyway it now take minutes to get approved with no Issues.

-I did call at week three and the PICS ppl told me my reversal letter was on the Corporals Desk waiting to be signed.. what a relief!! They are quite helpful when you call as long as you are respectful and make your point clear.

If you were "Put into Research":

Like my Brother a few days after I was denied:

-They have 14 Days to Contact the Firearms Dealer With Their Decision... The seller will then contact you with the results and if you were approved you have 24hours to pick up your firearm... If denied then you go about the Challenge Process

-After my Bro was put into Research Cabelas Called him on Day #3 to say he was approved and to come and pick it up He was happy

Good Luck and I hope this helped... Just be patient and if you truly are able to own a firearm they will clear it up..
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old November 29th, 2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location:
phoenixville, Pennsylvania
(Chester County)
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 0
footballfan is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Pics denial

I have the forms printed and filled out just have to send. Am going to send next day from my work so I know it got there. The dealer told me to call him tuesday should I wait till then to send?
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old November 29th, 2009
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location:
Home, Pennsylvania
(Luzerne County)
Posts: 76
Rep Power: 0
NEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to beholdNEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to beholdNEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to beholdNEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to beholdNEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to beholdNEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to beholdNEPAGUNNER is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Pics denial

Quote:
Originally Posted by footballfan View Post
I have the forms printed and filled out just have to send. Am going to send next day from my work so I know it got there. The dealer told me to call him tuesday should I wait till then to send?

I see no reason to wait for your dealer call you... If you have the form filled out properly...which is pretty simple....Then I would go ahead and send it out...

The day I got denied @ Cabelas was the day I mailed in my Challenge Form...I had no interest in waiting...

The only reason I would see that waiting would be necessary is if you were just "put into research" and the dealer was waiting for the answer....But I do believe I did read in an earlier post that it was an outrught "denial" so if that's the case I would definitly send it tomorrow asap to get the ball rolling....

Good LUCK
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old November 29th, 2009
Pa. Patriot's Avatar
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location:
Mountain Top, Pennsylvania
(Luzerne County)
Age: 43
Posts: 11,946
Rep Power: 5125
Pa. Patriot has a reputation beyond reputePa. Patriot has a reputation beyond reputePa. Patriot has a reputation beyond reputePa. Patriot has a reputation beyond reputePa. Patriot has a reputation beyond reputePa. Patriot has a reputation beyond reputePa. Patriot has a reputation beyond reputePa. Patriot has a reputation beyond reputePa. Patriot has a reputation beyond reputePa. Patriot has a reputation beyond reputePa. Patriot has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Pa. Patriot
Default Re: Pics denial

Quote:
Originally Posted by footballfan View Post
I have the forms printed and filled out just have to send. Am going to send next day from my work so I know it got there. The dealer told me to call him tuesday should I wait till then to send?
The dealer was required to give you the form at time of denial.
If you printed them out (presumably from online) already and filled them out there is no reason to wait.

Be absolutely sure to send them "certified" with return rcpt, as anyone should send any and all correspondences with any .gov entity.
__________________
_________________________________________

Quote:
danbus wrote: ...Like I said before, I open carry because you don't, I fight for all my rights because
you won't, I will not sit with my thumb up my bum and complain, because you will.
Remember Meleanie
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old November 29th, 2009
Smalls's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location:
Chambersburg, Pennsylvania
(Franklin County)
Age: 27
Posts: 1,069
Rep Power: 793
Smalls has a reputation beyond reputeSmalls has a reputation beyond reputeSmalls has a reputation beyond reputeSmalls has a reputation beyond reputeSmalls has a reputation beyond reputeSmalls has a reputation beyond reputeSmalls has a reputation beyond reputeSmalls has a reputation beyond reputeSmalls has a reputation beyond reputeSmalls has a reputation beyond reputeSmalls has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Pics denial

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot View Post
Be absolutely sure to send them "certified" with return rcpt, as anyone should send any and all correspondences with any .gov entity.

But it's the Government, you know, the thing that helps run the United States. I'm sure they wouldn't lose any paperwork..........
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Calling for some help with PICS Challenge denial psyche General 16 October 5th, 2009 10:30 AM
Q: PICS APPROVAL/DENIAL PLZ HELP NEPAGUNNER General 34 September 14th, 2009 02:48 PM
PICS denial and marijuana possession jford General 7 August 20th, 2009 11:21 AM
PICS denial Tommy2Times General 29 April 16th, 2009 07:52 PM
PA PICS denial MAXIMUMPOWDER General 15 April 21st, 2008 09:48 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Marketing Services provided by MergeMedia.
Local gun shops | Local shooting ranges | Philadelphia Shooting Ranges | Philadelphia Gun Shops | Pittsburgh Shooting Ranges | Pittsburgh Gun Shops