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[Guns4Fun]

Originally Posted by Suburban

I'm about to start a transaction for an AR-15 DIAS.

Would my local township PD have the required fingerprint cards? When I applied for the FL carry permit, they sent me a card along with the application.

I know i'm getting in the game a little late on this but you will need to get the fingerprint cards from the atf. your local pd will have them however, they have the local pd's return address not the atf-nfa branch (ask me how i know this ).

[Suburban]

Originally Posted by Guns4Fun

I know i'm getting in the game a little late on this but you will need to get the fingerprint cards from the atf. your local pd will have them however, they have the local pd's return address not the atf-nfa branch (ask me how i know this ).

I'm still waiting to hear back from the owner of Targetmaster on whether he can transfer the sear, without getting the seller to go to a dealer. Rather that try to contact him again, I think I'll just go to JB Arms on monday.

Thanks. I kinda figured that's how it works.

[John@JCDLESales]

Originally Posted by Suburban

I'm about to start a transaction for an AR-15 DIAS.

Would my local township PD have the required fingerprint cards? When I applied for the FL carry permit, they sent me a card along with the application.

Probabley not. The 2 sets of fingerprint cards must be FBI forrmat. You may call your local BATFE and request they send you a set out for your NFA Transfer. But your Class 3 Dealer doing your paperwork should have these also.

You must also print and fill out a Certificate Of Compliance *(Again Your Class 3 Dealer should have these also) or the BATFE will send your form 4 back telling you you did not include a Certificat Of Compliance. Be sure to include this with your Form 4 or you have just added time to your approval time.

You Sign this certificate atesting to the fact that all information is ture and correct.

Link To PDF Certicicate Of Compliance:

http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/pdfs/f533020.pdf

[JayBell]

you can get all real forms straight from the ATF distributiuon center, all in under a week(usually), at no charge, shipped right to your door
hit this link:
http://www.atf.gov/dcof/index.htm

for the fingerprint cards, since the ATF branch is now running out of West Virginia, the old DCATF100 cards are accepted, but will be more direct if you use the right ones:
you want the ones marked :
FBI FD-258LE - NFA, Imports ORI WVATF0100

HtH,
Jay


PS, alamost ALL NFA or ATF forms can be gotten from this link, its an order form.

[Suburban]

Hehe, I probably found out how to get the fingerprint forms from the ATF just about when that was posted.

I've got pictures taken, just need to format and print a couple. Didn't know about the Cert. of Compliance, though. I saved a copy and I'll have that ready too.

I'll just have for find a CLEO to sign. My neighbor has an M-16, but he's a retired cop, so I'm really not sure if I can get the Chief to sign without a fight. Would anyone happen to know if the Delaware County Sheriff signs form 4s?

[danp]

Originally Posted by Suburban

Would anyone happen to know if the Delaware County Sheriff signs form 4s?

I believe he does. A guy showed up at my range one day with about 6 or 7 various MGs. We got to talking and I'm almost positive he said he lived in DelCo and had no problem with a signature.

[avizpls]

This thread should be retitled to NFA Q&A! Its a great transcript of a typical conversation with a prospective NFA owner

[Guns4Fun]

Originally Posted by Suburban

Would anyone happen to know if the Delaware County Sheriff signs form 4s?

If he doesn't sign just start a LLC. $125 one time fee and maybe $100 for a lawyer to draft it up if you cant figure it out yourself. My Cleo will sign (he signed my first) however, since then, i started my LLC and i like that i dont have to go asking for signatures, getting fingerprinted and photographed. All that seems like a big waste of time to me now.

[Suburban]

Originally Posted by Guns4Fun

If he doesn't sign just start a LLC. $125 one time fee and maybe $100 for a lawyer to draft it up if you cant figure it out yourself. My Cleo will sign (he signed my first) however, since then, i started my LLC and i like that i dont have to go asking for signatures, getting fingerprinted and photographed. All that seems like a big waste of time to me now.

I'm not sure what that tax consequenses of that might be. I think I'd rather just get a signature. My next NFA purchase, if any, will probably be many many years in the future.

[danp]

Originally Posted by Suburban

I'm not sure what that tax consequenses of that might be. I think I'd rather just get a signature. My next NFA purchase, if any, will probably be many many years in the future.

There is no tax consequence that I or my CPA know of. I pay him $100/year to fill out all the proper forms with 0's (since the LLC has no income) and get them in on time. It's worth it for peace of mind.