Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association
HB2011 and HB1243 Updates

So far, there hasn't been a 2nd Consideration vote on either of these bills. WE NEED TO KEEP UP THE PRESSURE, and continue to contact our legislators - ask them to tell House leadership to bring these bills to a vote! Ask them to vote YES on HB2011, and NO on the Universal Background Check amendment. In addition, the FOAC is requesting support for an amendment proposed to HB1243 (Mental Health Records for Firearms Purchases) that, if passed, will allow HB1243 to restore firearm rights to those who have recovered from a mental illness.


For more information and updates on these efforts,
CLICK HERE

For legislator contact information,
CLICK HERE


Go Back   Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association Discussion Forum > Discussion > General

Notices

General General firearm-related talk that does not fit into any of the other forums.

PAFOA Sponsors Businesses that provide financial and technical support to PAFOA. PAFOA Shopping Partners A percentage of all sales made through these partner links goes to PAFOA.
Arms Dealer Logo

Arms Dealer — Free Firearm Classifieds, Gun Shop & Shooting Range Reviews

Arms Dealer is your one-stop shop for free firearm classifieds, gun shop & shooting range reviews.

Join today to start buying, selling and reviewing!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old November 10th, 2009
joelad's Avatar
Active Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location:
NE Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
(Philadelphia County)
Posts: 138
Rep Power: 309
joelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond repute
Default Reloading steel cases?

Just got an email from Aim Surplus. They have Russian steel cased, Boxer primed .223 in stock, $215 for 1K.

Are steel cases worth reloading? If so, are special dies needed?
Reply With Quote

Thanks for visiting our forum! If you ever plan to return you should consider quickly registering for a forum account, especially if you're in Pennsylvania. It's simple to do and best of all free. Once registered you'll be able to participate in our discussions and keep up to date on issues important to Pennsylvania firearm owners!

  #2 (permalink)  
Old November 10th, 2009
o1dakota440's Avatar
Senior Member
PAFOA Silver Supporter
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location:
montoursville, Pennsylvania
(Lycoming County)
Age: 34
Posts: 423
Rep Power: 782
o1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Reloading steel cases?

as far as i know, you cannot reload steel cases. i have asked about this before at differant ranges i use and have been told by handfuls of reloaders that it can;t be done. but they never say why. so if someone has the real answer to this, i would really love to hear it
__________________
...
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old November 10th, 2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location:
Sunbury PA, Pennsylvania
(Northumberland County)
Age: 28
Posts: 28
Rep Power: 0
DoubleStack has a spectacular aura aboutDoubleStack has a spectacular aura aboutDoubleStack has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: Reloading steel cases?

i beleive i read some where that stell is not a plieable as a bress case and are more prone to crack aand i thought all steel case was boxer primed that is a big problem to
__________________
If it go's BOOM, I want it
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old November 10th, 2009
joelad's Avatar
Active Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location:
NE Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
(Philadelphia County)
Posts: 138
Rep Power: 309
joelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond reputejoelad has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Reloading steel cases?

I wonder why they marketed it as Boxer primed when the rest of Ruskie stuff is Berdan?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old November 10th, 2009
Brick's Avatar
Grand Member
PAFOA Gold Supporter
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location:
Apolacon Township, Pennsylvania
(Susquehanna County)
Age: 67
Posts: 3,639
Rep Power: 97374
Brick has a reputation beyond reputeBrick has a reputation beyond reputeBrick has a reputation beyond reputeBrick has a reputation beyond reputeBrick has a reputation beyond reputeBrick has a reputation beyond reputeBrick has a reputation beyond reputeBrick has a reputation beyond reputeBrick has a reputation beyond reputeBrick has a reputation beyond reputeBrick has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Reloading steel cases?

Steel cases are reloadable. The Boxer priming means you'll be able to use your standard U.S. reloading dies to perform the work. Berdan primed cases whether brass or steel can be reloaded, but you cannot use the standard sizing & decapping die found in U. S. sets because the Berdan primer doesn't have a centered flash-hole and IIRC the anvil is built into the cartridge case not into the primer. Look inside a Berdan primed case and you'll see two holes off-centered. Also you must get the right metric size primer, they don't use something simple like large or small, rifle or pistol.

Don't forget besides holding the components in one "package", the cartridge case is supposed to expand and form a gas seal in the chamber, so the steel case is softer than the steel in either your dies or rifle chamber.

For bottle-neck cartridges make sure you do an adequate lube job on the cases outside and inside the neck.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old November 10th, 2009
Super Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location:
Pennsylvania
(Clearfield County)
Posts: 810
Rep Power: 474
Stooperzero has a reputation beyond reputeStooperzero has a reputation beyond reputeStooperzero has a reputation beyond reputeStooperzero has a reputation beyond reputeStooperzero has a reputation beyond reputeStooperzero has a reputation beyond reputeStooperzero has a reputation beyond reputeStooperzero has a reputation beyond reputeStooperzero has a reputation beyond reputeStooperzero has a reputation beyond reputeStooperzero has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Reloading steel cases?

I've reloaded quite a bit of Boxer primed WOLF .223

Not an issue
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old November 10th, 2009
brian's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location:
lebanon, Pennsylvania
(Lebanon County)
Age: 39
Posts: 3,498
Rep Power: 21750
brian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Reloading steel cases?

i've reloaded a handful of wolf 45acp steel cases at least a dozen times so far, and they are still going strong.

myth: steel cases not reloadable.

results: busted
__________________
it's only metal, we can out think it....
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old November 10th, 2009
o1dakota440's Avatar
Senior Member
PAFOA Silver Supporter
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location:
montoursville, Pennsylvania
(Lycoming County)
Age: 34
Posts: 423
Rep Power: 782
o1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Reloading steel cases?

are there differant steps involved with reloading steel? i wonder why everyone says you can not reload them?
sorry i did not see bricks post
__________________
...

Last edited by o1dakota440; November 10th, 2009 at 07:01 PM. Reason: whoops
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old November 10th, 2009
o1dakota440's Avatar
Senior Member
PAFOA Silver Supporter
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location:
montoursville, Pennsylvania
(Lycoming County)
Age: 34
Posts: 423
Rep Power: 782
o1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond reputeo1dakota440 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Reloading steel cases?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stooperzero View Post
I've reloaded quite a bit of Boxer primed WOLF .223

Not an issue
i have a 55 gallon drum full to the top of wolf .223 cases. i was goint to wait for scrap to go up. but if i can reload them, that would be great.
__________________
...

Last edited by o1dakota440; November 10th, 2009 at 07:00 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old November 10th, 2009
brian's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location:
lebanon, Pennsylvania
(Lebanon County)
Age: 39
Posts: 3,498
Rep Power: 21750
brian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond reputebrian has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Reloading steel cases?

Quote:
Originally Posted by o1dakota440 View Post
are there differant steps involved with reloading steel? i wonder why everyone says you can not reload them?
sorry i did not see bricks post
yea, worry less about getting all of them picked up.
there is still a bunch of berdan primed steel available. although, do-able it is not worth the hassle, which is not that great a step away from "you can't do it".
__________________
it's only metal, we can out think it....
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
IS IT WORTH RELOADING "WOLF STEEL CASES" afrattner Ammunition & Reloading 25 September 25th, 2011 01:27 PM
Reloading Sellier & Bellot Cases george58 General 3 September 17th, 2009 06:05 PM
reloading 357 mag cases with 38 special loads coalman General 7 June 20th, 2009 11:25 AM
.45 cal ball with corrosive primers & steel cases... Would you use them? BIA_Design General 10 January 24th, 2009 03:51 PM
Reloading Corrosive Cases tl_3237 General 2 November 10th, 2008 08:58 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Marketing Services provided by MergeMedia.
Local gun shops | Local shooting ranges | Philadelphia Shooting Ranges | Philadelphia Gun Shops | Pittsburgh Shooting Ranges | Pittsburgh Gun Shops