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September 17th, 2006
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gunvault.com safe vs. biosafe
Hello,
I am looking for a bedside safe that has quick access. The gunvault.com has a keypad that your hand fits in. It is supposed to enable you to enter a quick pin number without looking at it. The spring door open and your ready. It costs about $150. The Biosafe on the other hand has finger print recognition. It costs over $300. Does anyone here have one of these safes or something comparable? What do you recomend? Thanks! 
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September 17th, 2006
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I'd stay far away from "fingerprint" technologies.
Whats available for civilians at that price is going to be crap anyways, and this is the last thing you want to fail when the time comes. It might work every single time, but imagine under stress, your skin is more oily/sweaty, you might apply too much pressure, you body temp might be higher, all these factors contribute to these little devices failing several times in a row. And for a gun safe thats several times too many. I remember reading an artile on Wired a few months ago, about some chinese man figuring out how to bypass 90% of fingerprint scanners by using plastilline and gummie bears (I shit you not!) I believe a locked gun is dangerous, but if you must, go with tried and proven instead of flashy and new.
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September 18th, 2006
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this is a good thread, excilent question. As for the fingerprint tech. , It may be nice in theory and works perfect under normal conditions, but when you are experienceing B.A.R.(body alarm reaction) your body because in a extreme state, and the figerprint device may not register your print, (like diego said, because of sweat, your hands may be shaking, body temp.) granted, it may accept it after 1 or 2 tries , but that 1 or 2 tries in needed to get at a gun will cost you valuable seconds that you cannot afford to waist.
A safer and 100% reliable alternative is electronic numberpad safes, they a quick and if you have a good code that you memorized well you can open it just as fast as a fingerprint design  just an opinion Drak
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September 18th, 2006
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Im buying the DAC sportsafe from Wallmart
I found it on Walmart's site for $55. It got awesome reviews at Highroad.org. It is like the the one at gunvault except half the price and twice as big. It has an alarm and motion detector.
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September 20th, 2006
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If you buy Gunvault make sure it has the power cord (batteries only as backup)! Many people tell me they dont have to replace the batteries frequently..... but I'm on my second one after exchanging the first. BOTH use 8 Duracells a MONTH!!
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September 22nd, 2006
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