The land of milk and honey - The reality of a complete gun ban

[buster2209]

I wanted to write an article to inform anybody who is deluded about Britain now being the land of milk of honey since the 1997 gun ban.

For all those who don't know me, my name is Dan but I go under the pseudonym of buster2209. I'm an English guy who moved to PA several months ago as my wife is American.

I didn't have much experience with firearms until I joined the British Army in 2000 and have been an avid gun enthusiast ever since. I also have combat experience as I served in Iraq in 2003.

For all those people who don't know, the 1997 gun ban came into effect largely because of the public outrage at the 1996 Dunblane Massacre which was, essentially, some nutjob blowing a load of little kids away. After this tragic event, the government propaganda machine went into overdrive with adverts such as;

and

So, like good little subjects of the crown, we handed our guns in and here we are 12 years later. So, is Britain a safer place?

In a word, no.

The Home Office, (the British government department responsible for immigration control, security and order - the Brit version of DHS) has a vested interest in having statistics that show gun crime is going down in order to keep the public happy in the knowledge that gun control is working. There latest figures actually show gun crime is UP 4%.

There's also articles, here, here, here, here, here, and here. Please note that these articles span over 7 years.

But anybody can find out this stuff via the internet, but what it is really like in Britain?

From my own personal view, the police are armed more than ever. It is now common place to see police officers with guns as opposed to pre-1997. Why would the cops have more guns if making the private ownership of firearms illegal actually reduces gun crime?

<-- Today and Pre-1997 -->

So, I think I have safely established that gun crime has risen since the gun ban came into effect in 1997. It is asinine to think that banning the legal ownership of firearms will prevent the illegal possession of firearms.

But that isn't the end of the story. After the gun ban, there was a vacuum left in the choice of murder weapons so something had to fill it and the trusty old knife did.

Since the gun ban, the government have been introducing even stricter knife control laws as people are now being stabbed instead of shot.

The last figures released by the government show that knife crime is at it's highest in 3 decades!!

See, here, here, and especially here.

If you read the article here, you will see that David Cameron (a high chance he will be the next Prime Minister of Britain) states;

"...that people caught carrying a knife without a reasonable excuse should expect to go to jail.

In an interview with the Sun, Cameron said the current policy, which involves an automatic presumption that people carrying knives will be prosecuted, did not go far enough".

So there you have it, since the British gun ban came into effect, gun crime is up, knife crime has gone through the roof, and the average person can't do squat to protect themselves or the people they love.

The next logical stab is that the British Government bans all knives except anti-stab knives.

An 'anti-stab' knife

Remember;

"When the government fears you, you are a citizen. When you fear the government, you are a subject".

The personal ownership of firearms is a major firewall between being a citizen or being a subject.

[rodder]

Great post. +1 rep for you sir!

[buster2209]

You can thank son of the revolution, he told me this yesterday;

Originally Posted by son of the revolution

BTW , Im putting you on notice that as a British Ex patriot , your officially going to be drafted at some point to help the rest of us wake up the sheep in this Country that insist that everything is milk and honey in the UK since all the "evil guns " were banned .

So I figured I would just write an article that people can refer too whenever someone thinks gun control in Britain has reduced gun crime.

[bogey1]

great post!! welcome to the home of the free! (for now)

[Halftrack]

More proof that guns don't kill people; people with knives do.

[LorDiego01]

that was with the kids on the forest was crazy-ness.

Did they air that crap on television? During the day?

[buster2209]

Originally Posted by LorDiego01

Did they air that crap on television?

Yup, terrestrial TV

Originally Posted by LorDiego01

During the day?

I'm not too sure, I was only a teenager in 1997. My guess is sometime between 1930 to 2100 hrs during the week; that is the 'prime time' audience in the UK.

[buster2209]

I also found this article relating to the British ban gunblast.com

To quote Boge Quinn;

"Second, this serves as a capsule lesson in liberal incrementalism. Initially a large-caliber handgun ban was proposed (by the Conservative party no less, God rest Sir Winston Churchill) with a promise to go no further. This was followed by an expansion to include ALL pistols by the Labour party at their first opportunity. Now a plan to register all legally-held firearms is planned, and only an idiot would not see this as a precursor to total firearms confiscation. This will leave our British friends totally at the mercy of violent predators, but it will serve the utopian liberal cause."

[Peddler]

That was a fantastic post. + Reputation to you.

[andrewjs18]

rep sent...great post..I love it when people from different countries move to the USA and get a taste of freedom (for now anyhow).